Storytelling & Resilience with CCO Juliet Hahn: Breaking Dyslexia Myths & Celebrating Abundance
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Are you tired of hearing these myths about dyslexia? Myth #1: Dyslexics are not intelligent. Myth #2: Dyslexics will never be good readers or writers. Myth #3: Dyslexia is a disadvantage that cannot be overcome. In our upcoming episode, Dyslexia Unveiled, our guest Juliet Hahn will debunk these myths and share the truth about overcoming dyslexia and embracing personal strengths. Get ready to be inspired and empowered!
Introducing Juliet Hahn, an exceptional figure who wears multiple hats with ease. She is at the helm of communications at FetTech, handling all aspects of public relations and corporate messaging. Juliet's quest to communicate effectively began at a young age when she realized her unique potential and challenged herself to excel despite being dyslexic. Exhibiting a creative streak that belies traditional norms, she has taken on various roles and excelled in them. A podcaster and a storyteller at her core, she believes in the power of narratives and the ability to connect on a human level. Juliet's rich experience of overcoming personal adversity has honed her skills and led her to become a source of inspiration.
“Don't let a label define you. Dyslexia doesn't determine your intelligence or potential. Think differently and embrace your unique way of learning.” --Juliet Hahn
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You're gonna get to spend an hour plus with Juliet Hahn. Juliet's story is fascinating, and and her presentation skills are phenomenal. Her energy level is sky high. I understand now why she doesn't drink coffee. Man, she struggled really severely with dyslexia in third grade and elementary school, all through school. And we talk a lot about that and how she I don't wanna say overcame, but has dealt with that, through the years and how she's turned, you know, what was viewed as a lack of creativity and a lack of communication skills into just this powerhouse of strengths and traits, and she's now she just got hired as the chief communications officer for this, company that does biotech, you know, stuff. I'm not actually sure what they do, to be honest, but she deals with scientists and help them draw out their own stories, and she is extremely good at storytelling. She has three podcasts. She's a host or co host on three different podcasts. We talk about the NFL, the NHL, how life has seasons, and you're not committed to something forever, and how you really gotta, you know, go with the flow, but get stuff done. And it's a really cool balance that that Juliet's been able to reach here as far as just She's definitely type a motivated, go get her, but she's also been able to understand how to live in the present and create space we talk about the importance of walking and creating that space, mental space to be able to develop clarity, for your life And she's just a positive force in the world. You can tell. I had I had had to track her down. I heard her on another podcast as a guest, and took us, several months to get get her to commit to being on our show. So this is a a good catch for us for sure, and I know you're gonna understand why once you take a listen. Speaker 1
Welcome to the from adversity to abundance podcast. Are you an entrepreneur or aspiring entrepreneur, then this show is for you. Each week, we bring you impactful stories of people who have overcome painful human adversity to create a life of abundance. You are not alone in your struggle. Join us, and you will experience the power of true stories and gain practical knowledge from founders have turned poverty into prosperity and weakness into wealth. This podcast will encourage you through your health, relationship, and financial challenges So you can become the hero in your quest for freedom. Take ownership of the life you are destined to live. Turn your adversity into abundance. Speaker 0
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Yeah. So, I mean, I am a CCO, so I'm a chief communications officer for a company called FETTech. I am also a podcast host. I have three different podcasts, and I am a storyteller content creator. And on top of that, I am a wife and a mom. And and it sounds like crazy, but when it kinda seasons in life when things flow, I'm the type of person that just goes with it and kinda sees what, you know, kind of is budding and where, my interest and needs and, passions really kind of follow. Speaker 0
Yeah. Absolutely. I'm really excited about this one. There's I mean, I know storytelling is the foundation of what you do, and and I think that's kind of a sounds like a common thread through all of your different various ventures and and, parts of your journey thus far, and and we're gonna get into why that's evolved. As become one of your primary strengths. And I do think it's a critical this is gonna be both inspirational and practical for the listener because I know a lot of entrepreneurs and budding entrepreneurs and wanna be entrepreneurs. Think should I start a podcast? How do I, you know, go on a podcast? Should I be, you know, how do I tell my story? And there's a lot we can dive into on the practical side for sure. So from adversity to abundance, we we talk a lot about human adversity on this show. It's a human based story. It is for entrepreneur human based pod podcast. It is for entrepreneurs, and we do talk about business and, you know, and money and things like that. But at the end of the day, it's the human element that kind of, you know, where where we all kinda come together, we can all relate. And so I know you've been through some some real adversity in your life. We're not gonna stay on the adversity, but let's jump back and let's let's talk a little bit about your your backstory and what you've what you've, learned to deal with and and address on a on a regular basis. So where would you like to start, Juliet? Speaker 2
Well, I mean, I love that you just said that because there's so many things. My struggles have really become my strengths, and that is something that I talk about a lot on on really all my podcast But so we'll take you back to kind of one of my first memories in school was, the entire class in third grade was taken to gifted and talented, except myself and another boy, and he was he was the troublemaker in class. We were taken to special reading. And it was very known, like, okay, you guys are all going here. I had a lot of friends I was the athletic kid, you know, like, on the playground. I was the fastest. I was actually the fastest kid in the class. I beat all the boys. So I had, you know, a lot of strengths, but then there was things in school. And that was the first time I really realized, wait a second. There's something different And so I am dyslexic, ADHD. You know, it it it is a hereditary one in five. My dad, my sister, Probably, you know, we we we haven't traced it back to which grandparent, but we all have all of our ideas. My son, one one of my my children, and then also, like, you know, tons of, nieces and nephews. But, learning in the classroom how to kinda engage and interact with the teachers or what's now became something that I became really strong at. And that was communicating. That was the human connection. That was trying to figure out how to get out of things. And, basically, I didn't want the teacher to know, wait. I don't know you're saying. There are so many times, and, you know, I do talk about this on one of my podcasts. It's called word blindness dyslexia exposed. It is a podcast on dyslexia. My co host is a former NHL hockey, Stanley Cup winner, who was diagnosed with dyslexia when he was thirty two. He never even heard the word. So we really are bringing those stories out there are stories but then others and the importance of really knowing, okay, if you're struggling in school, there's something behind it because there's kids don't ever wanna get in trouble. When you're kindergarten first grade, you don't wanna know that answer. You don't wanna be Speaker 0
the last kid. Yeah. You don't wanna draw attention yourself, especially for for having a challenging, you know, if if, you know, actually, talk about that. I mean, we had, We had, Matt Four on the show. I had a he was one of the first guests on on my podcast. And, actually, he's featured in our our new book that we just put out And he talked a lot about his own dyslexia growing up and how actually reading is is, like, his favorite thing to do now, and he's just read, like, thousands of books, and he has a podcast now as well, which is which is amazing. So not saying it's the exact same story, but it's there are a lot of similarities in that what was a a major challenge for him became one of his biggest strengths. And so, you know, talk about, I guess, really, you know, for the audience who a listener who may not actually know what dyslexia is, can you just define it for us and kind of describe exactly what it is. Speaker 2
Mhmm. So it is a reading disorder, but it is also a processing. So I always could read. There's there's always levels. I always could read, but when I was reading, I would read very slowly, and I wasn't processing what I was reading. So when I listened to something, so I listened to all my books, you know, Right now, as I said, I'm the chief communications officer for a company. And so you would think we'll wait a second. But communication is actually my strength. I learned really early on. That if I used my voice, I could get things different than if I was writing. So a lot of times for me, might just like to say, I can have all these huge, great big huge ideas, and I can tell you all about them. I go to put them on a piece of paper and they literally do not come out of my head onto a piece of paper. I have to voice tech everything. I have to, Speaker 0
you Speaker 2
know, I have to audio is like my my friend. So again, technology nowadays is a lot better, but, like, thinking about a kid in the classroom. I have this big story I wanna write. Right? You're writing the story in third grade, and it's amazing and you have it all in your head and you go to write it. Yeah. You can't find it. Speaker 0
Nothing comes out. Speaker 2
And the teacher's like, well, what's wrong with you? Right? Pay attention. Stop fidgeting, focus. What are you doing? Why are you talking to your friend? Half of the time was because, like, what did one of the teachers said? What are we supposed to be doing? Because I was always one step behind because I was always I didn't I wasn't the kid that got in trouble I, again, I had a lot of friends. I my mom was in the education system. My older sister also struggled. I'm one of five. And so you know, it was known that, okay, things are not coming as easy, but the one thing that's really important dyslexia is not an, an IQ. Half of self made billionaires. I forget the the number, but it's like forty percent are dyslexic. We actually think very differently. Our brains are wired differently. And so our bright brains are wired. We're more creative. But the thing that's really interesting when I was in school, that that day that the, you know, kids went to gifted and talented, all my friends came And they're like, what did you go do? We did this amazing stuff. We're doing they were creating, and I can still remember. They were creating a knight and javelin, and they were doing mazes, and they're like, we're drawing and coloring. And creating things. And so that day, I told myself I wasn't creative because I couldn't draw instead of being like, okay, struggled in reading, and I'm not good at school, I said to myself, I'm not creative. And so that's Speaker 1
the Right. Speaker 2
That's the path I kinda went down. On my podcast and a lot of things I do talk about is the innate confidence. Some of us are just innately confident. I was Mhmm. I was born innately confident So I had a lot of strengths, and I had a family that would talk about my strengths a lot. But in school, they constantly talk about the things you're not good at. Speaker 0
Sure. Speaker 2
You need to work harder on this. You're not good at this. You know? So I and I, you know, I'm not gonna get into it too much, but, like, I had a lot of teachers that would give me a hard time. You know, like, why don't you just focus? Because because I did go to college. I played two college sports. I was very, very athletic. So I was on top of the athletic field, but, you know, closer at the bottom, of the education. I came from a place that everyone was really good at everything in my in my head. I mean, it wasn't a fluent town right outside of Philadelphia on the New Jersey side. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 2
So there's a lot of different things that, you know, you give yourself that that narrative. Like, when everything Speaker 0
Right. Speaker 2
You know, everything everyone's pretty good at. And you're like, why can't I get it? You put yourself up a little bit. But then again, when you have the positives, when you find out what your strengths are, that's why it's really important to really kind of find out if you are dyslexic and if you have, like, ADHD, dysgraphia, there's all these different things. But this as soon as you can kind of remediate it, you're never not gonna have That's one thing that's really important. You're never not gonna have it. Speaker 0
There's not a cure for it. You're not gonna just move on from it. Right? Speaker 2
And school and stuff is always gonna be hard. I mean, there's no it's But but you work harder. That's a lot of times. I work harder. I I have failed so many times that I will start something. So a lot of entrepreneurs are just like you know, it's like, oh, yeah. Speaker 0
Yeah. Which is which is interesting that you say about the, you know, you're not creative. I know I know you're not saying that now, but that was the narrative you were telling yourself and that you're teachers were telling you, basically, but it but it turns out actually because of that challenge the challenging situation, you become more creative. I mean, entrepreneurs at the end of the day, that's what they do is they create. And they they add value, they create things, and they're they are the definition of creativity, really. So, you definitely are creative. That's for sure. So now because I do feel like dys dyslexia, you know, has this is just this is just me, right, and just, you know, It's been around forever. Not not forever. But, you know, it's one of those Speaker 2
Eighteen hundreds. In the eighteen hundreds, I was called word blindness Speaker 0
because Speaker 2
that's why we named her a thing, but I mean, it's crazy and how they still really don't know. But god Speaker 1
Right. Speaker 0
Okay. But, no, I just, like, you know, nowadays, and and and frankly, my I've two teenagers, and we're we're dealing with some different challenges as well. And it it it so I've I've learned a lot more about, like, you know, just different ADHD and autism and and mental health and different things. And I I feel like dyslexia is one that just from my, you know, vantage point, maybe gets pushed or viewed as, like, less less challenging or just not that big of a deal or just so so it's kinda, like, You know, that that's cool, but that's the okay. You switched a couple letters and, you know, just switching back or something. Speaker 2
And and that but that's the thing, but that's and that's that's why we are doing the podcast that we're doing because it's so much more. And then it also comes down to the self esteem. Right? You you have to you don't have self esteem. And so a lot of times, dyslexic kids, if they don't have the support or they don't know what's going on, it's like, yeah, they do get that beat up But it is. So if I I can't spell I mean, I still spell, like, a second grader, which is super frustrating. Think about taking notes for the college, all of that stuff taking notes, I would look back and be like, I don't even know what that says. Speaker 0
So yeah. Because it's Speaker 2
been tough. It's really tough. Speaker 0
Now as we before we move, you know, more into your your story, how to, you know, what is some advice for somebody who thinks they might have dyslexia or them or maybe their their child does? I mean, just what's the first step to to finding out if you may have it? Speaker 2
You wanna get a neuro psych, and it's they're not They're expensive. It sucks. They do take time. But it's one of those things. And again, the And we talk about this a lot in the other time. And my my word line is podcast, so I'm not gonna get into it. But education is a broken system. Speaker 0
Yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 2
It it is it's it's really sometimes disheartening myself going through it. Having a child's gone through it. We were actually very fortunate. He went to a I see a school for three years. So we were really fortunate, but Yeah. It is, getting that neuro psych is really important, but not counting much of school to do because the school is gonna do it their way. And a lot of states won't they can't say you have dyslexia. It's just an l d. Or you and and when a teacher gets that, it's like, okay. There's a wide range of things that you can do to remediate. So there's things like Orton Gillingham. You there's ways that dyslexic people can learn to read Speaker 0
Uh-huh. Speaker 2
Now the most severe dyslexia person will probably never be able to. But most Sure. You know, on most rate most ranges if you do, like, Orton Gillingham or different reading things you can. So, like, once you find out and if you are ADHD, there's different things. A lot of ADHD, but again, ADHD gets that bad rap. I mean, I have ADHD, but my EQ, that's one of the things I wanted to say before. Like, my EQ and self aware in and and reading other people is, like, off the charts because that's and that's my gift. That's the, you know, god gave me that. It's like, okay. You might struggle here. It's just like a blind or deaf person. And you get stronger things. So it's just really important to know where those strengths and weaknesses are and to really build it up. So the neuro psych going to the doctor outside of the school is really important. Speaker 0
No. And that it gets the and we will, you know, move on into your story more, but that that that just gets to the point. I mean, my My mother is a retired public school teacher. My whole family is is is, you know, teachers are, you know, in the public school system in some way or in private as well. But And and they're all great people. Right? But you're absolutely right. There's so many shortcomings to the system itself, and we've dealt with that on with, like, you know, my my son's IEP, for example, and lots of lots of challenges there, the the public school system in general, has a lot of room for improvement. We'll leave it there. But and that gets to the point of the show, really, which is take ownership of your of your life. Point to your strengths, look at your strengths. We're not saying you don't have those challenges, and you do need to face those challenges and deal with them and not pretend they're not there. But own it, you know, and own own your situation and and and look to the people in your world that can help you help you move forward. In that way, you can end up being the best version of yourself and impact people in the most positive way possible. So walk us through, you know, kind of fast forward the through the next, say, ten years of your life, what what do things look like, you know, from school and then into your professional life. Speaker 2
Mhmm. So I did, as I said, I did go to college. I became a communications major, surprising. It wasn't it wasn't the first path, though. I was gonna be you know, corporate fitness because of fitness, but, you know, again, some of the classes I was like, nope. I'm not gonna do that. Found my way into communications realized I love this. Went into advertising. Moved to New York City, got a job even before I, graduated, did really well in college because I started learning things that I really was interested in and and learned how I learned, which was really important. Again, figure it out, okay, where those weaknesses, how I can kind of work with them and how I can kind of you know, elevate them, know that they're still there, as you said, but kind of really work off my strengths, which as I said, I have some really good strengths. Yeah. I have some weaknesses, but really good, you know, some strong stanks. So met my husband, and then I chose to stay home raised three kids. I have three teenagers. So, we did that. And as as I went, I always was networking. I was always you know, connecting with people. I was always the person that was like, oh, wait. You're doing this. You know what? I need to connect you with this person. Always knew every shopkeeper. You know, knew every everyone's story because I always asked questions. I'm a very, very curious person. So I always asked questions I don't get into like hour long, but I, you know, would sit and connect with most people. It's it's one of the things I think is important and a lot of people don't do. They don't They don't look around themselves. Everyone had a lot of times in this world too with our lives. We all have stuff. Right? We all have trauma. We all have stuff going on. We all have hard days. But I always make sure I'm looking around me because someone else might be having a harder day and maybe I can impact them. And that's something that I've really raised my kids. Know, they're teenagers now. So sometimes they they forget that, but it's important to do that. So, you know, as I did, I always stay connected to people. And as I, we moved to, a community where I was like, you know what? I was doing some fitness stuff in the other community kind of helping mom stay healthy. I was at that same kind of stage and, you know, our kids would be playing. And I was like, hey, let's do. I could I could do a workout for, you know, because again, I played two sports. I've always had mindset. I've always worked hard, you know. Yeah. Dyslexia, you always work harder because you you gotta. And so from there, it was like, okay. I was we had just moved. Walking is like something that I do. It's and this is one of the things that I talk about in my podcast If you ever feel like you're stuck or you're like, what's going on? Where do I wanna go? What do I wanna do? I always say to people you need to daydream. And I think a lot of people don't allow themselves to daydream because they're scared that it's not gonna happen. And maybe they're stuck in life. You know, we talk I'm sure you talk about the golden handcuffs on here. Oh, yeah. You know, people get stuck in their jobs, and they're like, how do I get out of it? And I would say, you know, you're not a tree. You're not a tree. You don't have to stick with what you are. So even if you're making money and you're you're the the sole breadwinner, but you're miserable. You're not helping anyone else. You have one life. So I say Speaker 0
thank you. Speaker 2
I have to move. Speaker 0
Yeah. To to Adrian, you gotta move. Yeah. Absolutely. Speaker 2
I sit. I think about dishes and laundry. Speaker 1
Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I I never been Speaker 0
I I tried meditating too. It just yeah. I'm with you. It didn't stick. Maybe I'm I'm sure I could get better at it, but But, no, I and I completely have come around, and I played I played La Cross in college, and I was in the military. It was always very active and, you know, type a as far as, I guess, achieving and things like that. But I always kinda looked down on not not looked down on, but I thought walking was kind of a a waste of time, to be honest with you, because I was too I was like, well, that's I'll just run and get it over with. You know? And to be honest now, my wife and I walked quite a bit together or separately, and it is amazing. Like, I Speaker 2
mean, it's Speaker 0
it's not only a good, the great physical workout, It is it's really allowed me to to, have that space for to develop the mental clarity That's just critical. I mean, and and it's honestly easier to stay busy. It's it's a cop out to stay busy, and I have plenty of things to stay busy with. But just allowing your space that allowing yourself that space to, you know, think and daydream. Like you said, that's that's amazing. That's really good. So that's a big part of your of your life. And so I do Speaker 2
it every every morning. I I have two boxers. I do it every morning. Seven days a week, rain snow, whatever. I walk them. We walk probably an hour. Three miles, and it is my time that I daydream. And I just dream about what I, you know, what I wanna do. And at this point in my life, we had just moved. I had just lost a friend, to frontal lobe dementia at forty. It was really sad. And I was just feeling like, I wanna do more. My husband's working. You know, we just moved to community. I really wanna do the fitness stuff. Yeah. And then I was like, you know what? I love podcasts. I'm gonna start a podcast. I love talking. I love telling stories. I'm gonna tell. I'm gonna talk about this phase of my life, you know, this phase of my life. I was in my mid forties, early to mid forties. And I was like, this is an important time because I've to a lot of women that maybe stayed home or even didn't stay home and are are trying to juggle at all and and talk to men that are, you know, that same too, like, ugh, I don't love what I do anymore. So I'm gonna start telling stories. So I ran home, you know, told my my kids and my husband. I'm gonna start a podcast like, oh, do you know how to sort a podcast? I said, no. I'm gonna figure it out. When I tell you that because again, I figure everything out. It's like, I can do this. If if I fail, I fail. You know what? If it's not meant to be, I do believe, you know, whether it's god or the universe, if there's a path, like, if that came to my mind, I can't tell you how many times, like, a podcast, a podcast, you like to talk. I was like, okay. I'm gonna follow it. And so I am that type of person. If I daydream and something keeps coming up, I'm like, okay. I believe that's god with spring, right, with spring, like, hey, go follow that. See where it takes you. So I jumped in. I literally we were going away our oldest son was playing soccer in Sweden. And so my husband's like, are you really starting it now? Because again, my moment is selecting an attention deficit. So I sometimes I'm very impulsive. And I'm like, oh, I'm doing it. And I literally if I say I'm gonna do something, I will do it, and it will be like, that's all I can focus on. I overfocus and I will get it done though. So, like, sometimes it's a great attribute to have. So he's like, well, just pause, and he's a very good partner because he'll pause me at times. It's like, is this is this do you really wanna let it go now because of, you know, we're traveling? And and I was like, you're right. You know what? So I could have had it out literally in in a month, but I was it it took like two months from start to finish. Yeah. I started telling personal journal stories. And I started connecting with people, and people were reaching out to me and saying thank you for sharing that. And a lot of it was kind of hot mess moments as a mom when my kids were little and I always say I was, you know, a really good mom. I'm a, a great mom, good wife, terrible house housewife, and I chose to stay home, but I was like, oh, not really cooking, and I don't really like any of that stuff, but I gotta do it. So I had a lot of funny stories. Right? I had a lot of funny stories, but a lot of vulnerable stories that I thought needed to be I Speaker 0
think that's I think that's the key is the vulnerability, and and I think that's what people are looking really craving these days because all we see on social media is the the great, you know, how everything's so wonderful and all the highlights. And and that's fine. And, you know, we all probably I know I do that, but And I have no no issue with seeing somebody's vacation pictures. I I'd rather see that than their pile of laundry or something, but at the end of the day, it's it's just, you know, re so refreshing when someone is actually vulnerable, and we can all relate to that on some level. I mean, so I think people are starved for that type of vulnerability and authenticity. So, I mean, that I was listening to a podcast yesterday about podcasting, and and just how that's really the the solo episodes where you the the host is just vulnerable. Mhmm. Get a lot of a lot of downloads and a lot of know, a lot of positive feedback. So to the to the entrepreneur out there who's thinking about starting a podcast, we'll just say it frame it that way. I know you you had a bunch of signs through walking and things like that. But what are, you know, one or two kind of practical tips you could give someone for deciding even whether to to start a podcast. Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, I do I I talk about this a lot with people because, again, it seems like, oh, you could just go do Right? There's a lot behind it. And it's not for everyone. And there's there's not it does there's nothing wrong with it being that way. So what I always suggest first, is getting your phone. Everyone has a phone or a tape recorder and just sitting. First thinking, okay, do I wanna interview? Do I want to do solo episodes and just talk and see how long you can talk. But what I always really suggest is talking about your own story, really reflecting doing that self reflection, talk back and just talk. Let it all, like, kind of brain dump. Do it when you're walking or when you're sitting. If you're someone that needs to sit, but just literally get it and see how long you can do it and how comfortable you are. Mhmm. And then re listen to it. And maybe you don't re listen to it. I don't I don't usually re listen to stuff, but some people like to re listen to it. But don't re listen to it in the critical way to see. Okay. You know what? I I could feel my energy go up here. I could feel my energy go down here. I could feel my energy get a little weird here. These are things maybe I need to think about. So really, diving into yourself first is I think to me whether it doesn't matter what kind of podcast do you wanna start. Mhmm. You wanna be comfortable enough to have a conversation, but also bring in some of your own self. This is also for an entrepreneur, and I know we're gonna get into this. But bringing in the parts of your own story that are gonna connect deeper with an audience is gonna help you grow your business. It doesn't matter. You know, what you're selling, what you what service you have, if you're creating a community because of who you are and, like, and and your parts of your story, that community is gonna grow. And, you know, and and it's gonna grow. And if you have a great product, that's great because then that's gonna blow up. If you have a crappy product, your community is gonna is is gonna grow, but maybe not get, you know, deep, not wide. Speaker 0
It Speaker 2
might be there. You might get new people all the time because you're connecting with people, and then it's like, oh, nothing happens are here. But if you get both and you're connecting with the community and you're, you know, you know, engaging them and talking about things and and you're still growing because you're getting new people, That's what's really important. So the the first thing you do is get your phone and do it for, like, two weeks. Okay. I'm gonna sit and talk about this part again. Okay. I'm gonna sit. Now again, this is not like some people have had a lot of trauma in their life. I'm not a therapist. I'm not telling you to go and and do a therapy session. But just talk about different aspects of your life. And then, okay, if you're gonna do solo episodes, how did that feel? What are their topics are you gonna talk about? You know, how many do you have? Or is are you gonna be able to grow the seasons? Now I did solo and then COVID hit And I was like, you know what? I'm really curious of what's happening around the world with people in COVID. So I was like, I'm just gonna start reaching out to random people on social media seeing if they wanna do COVID stories with me. I started interviewing, and then I became, like, I was like, okay. This is my gift. I'm really good at interviewing. I asked questions. People were like, oh my god. No one's ever asked me that. I was hoping I could look at dots and Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 2
Fireals were gonna go. Speaker 0
High EQ. Right? You're able to read people Speaker 2
Exactly. Speaker 0
Dig in somewhere else that the that the other past interviewers haven't been able to find yeah, that's really that's really good. That's an interviewing is absolutely a skill. There's no doubt about it. It's and and there's not one way to do it. And I'm not saying I'm the greatest at it or anything, but, it is it is very different than than storytelling, for sure. But but if you're good at storytelling, you're probably gonna be good at drawing out a story from someone else. So when you started your podcast, I know you have three now. What was what was the goal? Speaker 2
It really was a it was a creative outlet. And I do like, I was missing a creative outlet and I didn't realize it because again, remember, I said I wasn't creative I really did not think because I couldn't draw, and I couldn't I don't sing. So I was like, oh, I'm not creative. Speaker 1
Right. But Speaker 2
I've been storytelling my whole life. When my kids were little, I had I can't tell you how many different characters and stories that I would create these, like I mean, I can't believe I didn't make them into children's series because anywhere we went, the kids would be like, mama, tell us the story about blah blah blah. And I would, you know, tell them about these elaborate stories. And I would have sometimes people come up and they're like, a cool story. Where'd you hear? And I'm like, oh, I just made it up. I just had that creative brain, but I never thought of his creativity because I was always that way. But one thing I do wanna touch base when you said the EQ, the other thing is because of my dyslexia, I learned to read people really well of, like, how to get out of things. So I can read someone's body language. So when I'm talking to someone, I can tell, okay, they speed they sped up a little bit. I can tell body language. I can see how someone moves I can see if they slow down. I I am so on cue to reading people. Again, yes, it's my EQ, but it's what I built because of weakness. Speaker 1
And that's Speaker 2
what's really cool. So that's like the self re reflection that I want people to do, especially entrepreneurs because it's gonna connect somewhere in there that they're gonna be like, Oh, I understand now why this is why I'm so good. Like, we all are born with skills and not skills, but the ones that you sharpen, like, why? Why are you so sharpen that? Really go back and think about that. Mhmm. So, but so, yes. It it is and it's it's really important. But again, it's that self reflection. Not everyone likes to self reflect. Again, people have trauma, but you can self reflect in a way that you're not opening yourself and you're, you know, and and if you feel like maybe you do, you talk to a therapist, you know, go talk to a professional, do this in a therapy session if you talk to a therapist and see Okay. I can do that. But those are the kind of, you know, just just tips that I talk about a lot. Speaker 0
Absolutely. So it's a creative outlet and then it then it will then it branched into two additional podcasts. So okay. Now I guess what other whether any other quick tips as far as running a podcast to things that have maybe something that hasn't worked for you? Speaker 2
Well, I I very quickly, realized I didn't like editing. And I knew that if I stayed with podcasting and I had to edit myself, I wouldn't have stayed. So that's the other thing you have to really think about your your strengths and weaknesses. Again, I sometimes sound like a broken record, but I knew that was not a strength of mine. I am not a detailed oriented person. A lot of women are. I am not one of them. I am not detailed and that kind of stuff will would frustrate the hell out of me. So I knew very quickly that I was gonna get an editor. So another thing someone might say, okay. I don't have the finances to do that. There's so many different things that you could do. I mean, I think there was I My husband does well. I didn't want my husband funding any of this. I wanted to do this on my own. I didn't want this to be my passion project, but then become his financial project. That I did. I wanna do that. And I was, like, very clear about that. There was times yes that I was, like, oh, didn't didn't really organize that. Can you help here? But I didn't want that. So as I said, I had done some fitness stuff that I still was doing a couple, you know, I I didn't wanna grow that, but I was like, I can still work with some clients. I know what my skills are. I can help get a little income there. Put it back into the podcast. There was a time I as I said, I have boxers. There was a family that needed someone to babysit a puppy boxer. And I was like, I'll do that. So then they they were like, well, we'll pay you if you really do it during the day. And I'm like, I'm home. Of course. I have two others. They can just hang out. So I did that. I got a little income there. And so then I put that back into the podcast. So I knew I wanted to put the money into the editing and that I was gonna be good at everything else because that's the other thing is putting a deadline, not putting a deadline being like, well, when it gets harder, it doesn't feel right, I'm gonna stop because how many times does that happen when people stop something Speaker 0
too early? Speaker 2
I gave myself a year deadline. Doesn't matter how easy or how hard. And then I could say, I did it. Yeah. Great. What did I learn from it? But it wasn't for me, but obviously it was. Speaker 0
I've heard, you know, there's, like, something like four million plus podcasts out there and only about fifteen percent have produced content in the last thirty to sixty days, something like that. Yes. Speaker 2
And I Speaker 0
know that's how we connected as I listen to you on a pod the the cap show podcast, which was really good. On cash flow. Absolutely. We use it as well. It's really, really good. So now Okay. So that's about, you know, creating a podcast, running a podcast. And and so I would I would agree with you. Give it at least a year. I mean, don't do this if you're gonna do it for two weeks and just give up because it got a little bit challenging because there is a ton of work to this. No doubt about it. But maybe so talk to the person who is They don't wanna start a podcast. They realize it's too much work. It's just not their thing. Maybe they wanna try it in ten years, but but they realize there's there's value as an entrepreneur or any anyone, really, in going on other podcasts, going on shows and telling their story. Because I know that's something that you've helped a lot of people with that you used to help people with, you know, professionally, getting getting that that storytelling skill kinda to to be elevated, if you will. So what are, you know, one or two tips you can give to someone who's gonna be going on podcasts or just sharing their story, What can you tell someone in in those in that situation? Speaker 2
Yeah. No. And it and I had actually one of my clients just recently someone found her because of a podcast, because of the work that we had done in the past, because it is really important. Like, you could go on podcast And and for an entrepreneur, I say go in as many podcasts as you have. There's so many different services out there, but you don't need to spend money. If you don't have that, you can go do your own research and you can send it. There's so many levels of podcast. So many people are looking for good stories. And sometimes the smaller podcast have a a more, you know, kind of dense audience. They have their listeners that listen, and maybe it's Speaker 1
thirty. Maybe it's fifty. Maybe it's, you know, a hundred. Speaker 2
Maybe it's a thousand, but those listen every day. And when they hear something, they're sharing it with their community. And then it's going out there. So Even if you get one or two clients every couple months, that's more than you're getting if you're not going out there. Speaker 0
Yeah. No. Absolutely. We get very as hosts. We get very hung up on download numbers and and unique listeners per episode and that kind of thing, which is great. And you could check all the we use, cohost, which which provide some pretty good analytics. But and I and I yeah. I certainly want my download numbers to keep going up and up and up. But at the end of the day, does that really matter? I mean, is it is I mean, quality is is really important. So having that listener that comes back, that's what you want. So and and and I, up to your point, I get a lot more as much as I love being a host, and I love my podcast. And It's my, you know, one of my passion projects for sure. I get a lot more traction when I go on other shows, if I'm just being honest, because it's it opens me up to all these other networks, and I get a lot more people reaching out, after I I'm a guest on a show. So so storytelling. Just what are a couple of kind of basic, you know, I guess principles to be able to tell a good story? Speaker 2
Yeah. And I'm just gonna take it one step back there because as you said, like, you go on podcasts. And if you're telling your story correct, you I mean, you found me because of me the way I was telling my story in another podcast. So sometimes if you just are doing great work, you're gonna have people reaching out to you. Hey, can you be on my podcast? And you're not doing the other things. The other thing is someone might say, hey, I just had a great guest. You have a little network of podcast to hosts. You're friends with, that you're like, I just had this great guest. You know what? I'm gonna recommend you. But if you're the person that doesn't know how to tell your story and you're all over the place, you're gonna be doing a lot more work because you're not gonna have the recommendations. You're not gonna have the people wanting to come back and listen to you because you were all over the place or you just weren't hitting the right spot. So what I always say is there's a lot of different things. This is a take goes back to that that exercise. Of you telling your whole story. From literally when you were little, your first memories, and talk I mean, it can be like, I, you know, hi. I'm, you know, John. I have three siblings. I lived in Nebraska, you know, and and giving those details, but details that are coming up and you're remembering. And so when you're doing that on your own, And then you're like, and this is what I used to do with clients, is I would say, okay. Now the things that you just touched on, but I personally could listen and be like, okay. I I saw how you literally lit up. And you went from slow talking to being uncomfortable talking about your past, to that one day in fifth grade when you had that pivotal moment and you lit up and they're like, oh, I didn't think that was that important. And I'm like, your energy And the way you presented yourself is what's gonna attract the outside world. So I had a guest, just an example. I love to give examples and and and then it kind of people understand that's the way my brain works. But so I had a guest that was a business coach. And she started telling me this story, and I didn't didn't work with her before. So she was just coming on. She was on the podcast circuit. She said, I just kinda have the silly story about pink peonies. But it was really not important. I was like, well, no. I just wanna hear about I love pink peonies. Like, what what what is your story? And she basically took me through this pink peony story. And the way she lit up was insane, and she still gets clients now that are like I connected because that pink peony story, that had nothing to do with what her business was. Speaker 0
Right. Speaker 2
But it was her friend gave her a pink peony when she was leaving the corporate world to start her own business. And it was her grandmother's favorite flower, and it made her feel something. And her this friend didn't know that it was the grandmother's favorite flower. So it just became this big, important piece of her life and that transition. And that transition is what then connected to the audiences, and she still gets business because of that little story. And and it's those kind of things that sometimes you think something's not significant. We all we all have stories. Right? There's some people that have some trauma trauma, and you're like, why can't You know, they went through all this. And how am I gonna ever kind of, you know, be up to par with that? It doesn't matter because we all have an audience. We all have people that need to hear what we're saying. I say it all the time. You can learn from a janitor to a homeless person, to a president, to a CEO, to, you know, the top executives in the world, to athletes, to actors, we can learn from all of it We just need to listen. And a lot of times we don't let ourselves listen because we think, oh, this person doesn't know what they're talking about. But sometimes they might say something. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 2
And you're like, wait. That's interesting. I wanna think more about that. And when someone says that, that's sort of something that you need to follow. You need to start researching. You need to ask questions about. Because we need to light ourselves up sometimes and and especially when you're in that stagnant world. So that's the first thing you do. You do that exercise. You kinda pick those things out. You get excited about little things that, like, okay, I'm excited about that thing that happened to me in third grade because it was really, you know, I'm talking about my third grade. I hated that thing. But people also understand a little bit about who I am. Speaker 0
Sure. No. And then it's just getting back to the being vulnerable and being authentic and who who you who are you really deep down. And I love that point you made about learn we can learn we can all learn from anyone. I just hired a business coach, actually, and he he There's some kind of quote he used. He there was a quote he used the other day, which was something about every man as my superior in some way. Right? And Mhmm. Obviously, it's man woman trialed anybody. It's Yeah. But it's, Absolutely true. I mean, we can all learn from everyone. So, so you're you're doing that exercise to to figure out really kind of what lights you up, what what is your source of energy, really, you know, and about your own story. Right? And then so then highlight those those elements of your backstory. Is that essentially what you're saying? Speaker 2
And then and then and then as you're doing it, you're gonna start connecting dots. Again, you know, people hire people to help them do this, but sometimes people are introspective and they can kind of figure it out themselves. I mean, I have Yeah. So many people with this new position I'm taking, I'm taking, I'm working, in the regenerative medicine space. This is the, you know, I'm the chief communication offered for this company. They happen to be one of my storytelling client. So it's a really cool kind of Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 2
Whole thing, but I'm working with a lot of scientists right now on helping them be able to connect the dots and talk about their story. And they're like, this is so weird. But then I I've had them, you know, literally leave me messages, like, Okay. I there's so many things that I just connected because I'm thinking about that. So you don't have to have a professional person, but when you're doing this exercise, you're thinking back to those little memories that you have throughout your life. Now I also talk about there's memory feelings and there's memory visions. Right? Sometimes those memory feelings are more important than the actual little memories. Like, I, you know, if I think back to my childhood. You you know, we all have those little, like, things that we do. Some of us stuff certain things because, again, it's trauma. But sometimes, like, if you think Like, I remember being like, why every time we talk about, like, elementary school, do I get this, like, pit? And it was like, oh, that's when I, like, had to go to special reading and everyone and and teacher that brought me to special reading. She was a slow talker, and there was all this stuff around, like slow talkers. No offense to any slow talkers, but I I think drives me not I am like, oh my god, just say what you wanna say. And it kind of all came full circle, but those are the kind of things that you wanna dive into. Like, those Speaker 0
Sure. Speaker 2
Good memory feelings, The, I don't know. Like, I had a client, and with someone that was on my podcast, I talked about when she was growing up. And she's like, there was just always this great feeling in my house. And so we really dove into it, and it was because both of her parents were immigrants, and they lived in a very different area. But in her house. It was like both of their cultures that they brought in. And it literally, she would walk out and it would be this entirely world. They were the only kind of diverse people in their community. Speaker 0
Sure. Speaker 2
So she's like, it was just but she's like, but it was such a good, like, my home was my happy place outside, and And then we dove into all these different things. And it's one of the things she leads with all the time now because of what she learned in both of those experience. Speaker 0
Yeah. So you mentioned leads with. I'm I'm just curious before we move on, as far as the framework for telling your story is what should you lead with? Are you do you do you've lead with, like, a teaser or, you know, how do you frame the actual storytelling? If I'm gonna go on a podcast for thirty minutes and the whole goal is to Tell my story. Is there a particular framework you recommend? Speaker 2
No. I mean, you have to listen to who who the host is. Right? You're going on someone else's podcast. So you have to really think about who the audience is who you're talking to. But I always say in each chapter, I so I break things out into chapters. It's like their first chapter, second chapter, third chapter, fourth chapter, fifth chapter, fifth chapter, kinda thing. Speaker 0
I like that. Yep. Speaker 2
And in each chapter, you find those two sentences that kinda define you. So, like, I always I always bring in that I'm dyslexic. I always gonna bring that second, third grade story in. I always lee I always talk about I played two sports in college because Again, when when I say those two things, your audience people are gonna they already are thinking of, oh, wait, of When I say what I'm doing now and all the different things, they kinda get it a little insight into me before, even diving into my story. So, like, each of those kind of things, we all have those two experiences, those one experiences that should always be woven Speaker 0
into your Woven. So so you But Speaker 2
now we're really brought up. Yeah. But not weirdly broken. Like, it's not like you would be asking me about something and I would say, well, and then, you know, like, and and bring something weird up. That's like, what is she talking about? No. You have to make it flow and that's something you have to practice. Again, it's not Sure. Some people are do it better than others. Speaker 0
Absolutely. It gets back to listening and playing off of the other person. And, yeah, you wouldn't just start off with hi. I'm Juliet at Hahn. I I played two sports in college. Okay. Great. Speaker 2
Good for you. Yeah. What's wrong with you? Yeah. Exactly. So, right, I set it up. Like, I didn't, you know, the reason why I went to college is because I wanted to play sports. I hated school. If I didn't play sports, I went never have gone to college. Speaker 0
Sure. Speaker 2
I hated it with a passion. I sucked at it. Speaker 0
It's really bad. Well, for the record, I think team sports and sports as a whole just have So such benefit and such, you know, so many life lessons you can you can take from that from sports. I I love it. We're a big sports family. My my siblings. So talk more, you know, more recently. You mentioned the the new role that you're in and and, I guess, talk about what you have going on these days in a little more detail. Speaker 2
Yeah. So, I mean, I can take you. So, like, my first podcast is called your stop. I interview people that have followed a passion and turned it into a business. And that's, like, I do a little bit shorter because the other thing is you have to think about when you're telling your story. Are you going on a podcast that's an hour? Are you going on a podcast that's thirty minutes? Are you going on a podcast that's twenty minutes? Okay. What should I bring in? And these are all the things you just continue to tell your story to yourself and do it recording wise, you'll hear. Okay. I'm really comfortable with that. That's something I wish should lead with. I always should do that, you know. Because when you're comfortable talking, people can feel it. When you're uncomfortable talking about something, people can feel it, and that's where you're not connecting. That's where the disconnect is. So that's what's really important. If you're faking it, and that's where you said the, you know, the authenticity. Absolutely. Yeah. But so so that is like what is is really important to think about. But so now, because of the roles that I did. So your next stop thirty minutes. It's like quick. It's like, you know, it was started with women because that was the role I was in, and it was kind of where my life was going. And I was like, this is so fascinating. And then it went into, you know, I have two sons and I wanna inspire them and a husband. So, you know, I'm I'm, you know, not a feminist. No offense to feminist, but, like, I like to do equal opportunity. If someone has a great story, I don't care what you are. I, you know, who you are. I I wanna hear it. And I don't care how, you know, if you're famous, you if you can't tell you're kind of dicky. Well, I don't want you on my podcast. I don't, you know, it's so it's more of like that. Then I have YNS live, like, your next stop, live with NFL thread, and that is kind of an offshoot of your next stop, Cynthia Zortich, who is, her husband was in the league for twelve years, Michael, She was one of my first podcasts or I shouldn't say first because she was my hundred hundredth episode. And we dove into her story, and I became fascinating again. I this a couple times. I'm very curious. So I was like, wait. I wanna know, like, I'm a mom. Oh my gosh. Like, when when your husband got and and you had a, like, you had a a business What did you do with it? And I could just feel her like, oh, I gotta think about this again. Yeah. You know, I had to give it up. And then I was like, well, wait a second. So then we we collaborated and we do we do once a month, we have an interview. And it's either a a wife in, or a spouse and what they're doing, not about, you know, the the Speaker 0
A wife a wife or spouse of the of a professional Speaker 2
NFL athlete. Yeah. Strictly. And then, and what it's like? What, you know, what are you doing? What are you doing outside? There's so many attorneys, you know, philanthropic. I mean, so many different things that you're like, oh my god. Why does anyone, you know, because when you ask, can you introduce yourself, they always lead with what their husband does. And nothing wrong with it, but we wanna know about you because we're also women and moms and and whatever. And if you're not a mom still, like, how do you juggle all this? So we do live events at the Super Bowl at the Draft and at That's awesome. And at the hall of fame. Yes. I mean, and and if you go to my social media, you'll kinda see some of the fun things that we interview really fun people. We also interview players when they leave the league. So what that transition looks like, and that is so important because many people don't think about that there's so much mental illness. I shouldn't say mental illness. There's so much mental stuff that goes through. Speaker 0
Absolutely. I mean, it's, we had Josh Kalynowski, he was a professional baseball player. I he's a friend of mine. I I got to know him over the last year a little bit. And, He only played in in the, as a he was a pitcher. I think he was he he got injured after one to two years but it was, like, such a moving story because just his entire identity was wrapped up in in that, you know, and honestly, I could relate a little bit with my college the cross days, just because once, you know, we shockingly lost, actually, in in overtime, and it was, like, Well, what in in the playoffs, natural natural playoffs? And, all of a sudden, you're you're who are you? You know, what are your what defines you at that point? So I can't I can only imagine, you know, what, like, what Aaron Rogers is going through right now is is he gonna Right. Speaker 2
The Achilles, I mean, And and also he's like older in his life. He didn't stop. Like, there's so many things. And I think us as a society, we don't think about national athletes as humans, and they they put their pants on the same exact way we do. Totally. And they're not all making this money that they can just be like, okay, I'm done. When you're done, you're one injury away, So we really get into some. Speaker 0
Sure. I mean, Speaker 2
we had Ricky Waters on and he was Speaker 0
Oh, yeah. Speaker 2
I mean, he was crying. He and his wife. I mean, they have sports. Speaker 0
He played for the Ravens, I think he might have retired with with the Ravens. But, yeah, that's yeah. He was he was awesome, but but you're absolutely right. He's an Speaker 2
eagle for a little while. Yeah. Speaker 0
Okay. So even if it's like and I think Miami as well. But, anyway, he, you know, You're absolutely right. Especially with social media and then fantasy football and things, which I'm a huge fan of. Mhmm. We just treat these. Speaker 2
I have my taste. Speaker 0
People like They're they're just commodities now. They're not actually humans anymore, which is a real real shame. So so Cynthia, your current cohost was your was a guest on your hundredth episode of your next stop. Right? Mhmm. And you're like, I I love your story. We gotta connect and and then YNS Live was birthed out of that that connection. Is that right? Speaker 2
Yes. And so she has NFL thread, which is the LinkedIn for women, and she had started that about ten years ago. And so she would do a luncheon before the Thursday before all these events and get everyone together and be like, let's network with each other. Like, let's support each other small businesses. Let's do this because she's a connector. Amazing, amazing woman. And so she was on the podcast and we started doing this, she's like, I'm gonna bring the podcast because it's like the in person, she also has a magazine that goes alt. It's called the playbook that goes to every, NFL team. So it was like the podcast, the playbook, and the in person. So we do sponsorships. If you have any of your listeners are like, wait. I wanna get involved. Just reach out because we are gonna be in Vegas. Year, and it is going to be huge. I mean, we get some really fun people that come. I have the podcast set up. You jump on, you talk, and we have sponsorship opportunities and all that kind of pop up shops, but that I mean, that just burst out of it. And it's those things I do. Again, we do, you know, one interview a month. And then we do the live events and we get a lot of really fun content. I mean, I was at the hall of fame. I was literally in the backroom with the gold jacket. I mean, all of the gold jacket guys. Speaker 0
I'm like That's awesome. Yeah. So cool. Speaker 2
My kids are like, what what are you talking? I'm like, how Speaker 0
did you go? How did this happen, mom? That's so cool. So Speaker 2
Being curious and not saying no. Speaker 0
Absolutely. No. That's great. And then so your third podcast World Blindness dyslexia exposed. Right? Talk about that a little bit. Speaker 2
Yeah. So my co host is Brent Sopel, who was a former NHL Stanley Cup winner with the Black Hawks and severely dyslexic, didn't find out until he was thirty two. His daughter was diagnosed, and he's like, wait a second. But basically, he's a Canadian. He was pushed through school because they were like, okay. You're gonna be I mean, he was on his own, you know, went into the league basically at sixteen. So the other thing is we talk about and this is why it's so close to my heart. We talk about so many different things, but he didn't know he was dyslexic. He knew that when he got out of hockey, that he was not gonna be able to get a real job in his mind because of his dyslexia and he was never remediated. I mean, he basically was pushed through. It was like, okay. You're you're you're just gonna go, you're the dumb jock. Right? You're the dumb jock. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 2
So he was in the league for eighteen years. And he said he worked harder than anyone else because petrified that one step away from having to go into that real world. He went to Russia for three years to play, you know, when it was like, okay, your time's up here. He was like, I played in conditions that probably no one else would ever, but I was like, I cannot do it. He when he did leave the league, he did fall on really hard times. He's been sober and clean probably for seven years now. Has I foundation called the, Brent Sowell Foundation, which is a dyslexic foundation, and he's doing amazing things. He basically helps a lot of people with that neuro psych I talked about with the finances because it's really hard. That's what his foundation does. He also coaches, and runs a league. But, we started that because I mean, this is I know we're, like, short on time, but I basically was asked because of my podcast to interview him for a television show that's coming out. I can't even talk about when it was. I was connected with through the podcast world again because I put myself out there. I I don't say yes If it's not something that I wanna do, like, I'm not the person that's like saying yes to everything and then being like, oh, you can't handle everything. I say yes when I know it feels right. Yeah. Again, I pray. So that's like what I do, or I ask the universe. I take my walk, hey. Does this seem like I sometimes should do? But so he and I then got connected. And I was like, I really wanna help this foundation because obviously dyslexia is huge in my world. And I have so many stories and I I help people, like, I have people call me all the time. Be like, can you give me a little advice on an IEP or here? And so I was like, we just need to put the words to a podcast. So we're on episode five. Speaker 0
Oh, nice. That's awesome. Yeah. That's how some podcasts are born. It's like two people are are having conversations and they're like, we should be recording this and then they Speaker 2
Every time we talk, we're like, oh my god. This this is another episode. And Speaker 0
Yeah. That's that's really cool. We had, I had, Justin Ruffling Schoffer. He is, president of his company called Onit. He was actually fired by the NHL because he he was working for a couple different teams as a trainer. I'm not sure if he played in the NHL himself, but he was let go because he was standing up for all these guys who were predicted to pain killers. And, he was sick and tired of of treating them like that. And so he kept standing up to ownership and management. And eventually they they let him go. Well, that's a really Speaker 2
good episode. What's his name? Speaker 0
Justin Ruffling Schofer. He's also Canadian, but I believe he lives in Florida now. But his company is called on it. It's two words, on it. And they do knows Speaker 2
him because Canadian. And and he would just stand up. Yeah. For things Speaker 0
too. What they do now is they they do they work with, athletes and also professionals and really anybody to, create an individualized health plan. He's into, like, fitness and health and But, you know, blood work to figure out what you're, you know, I guess, all of your epigenetic testing and all that stuff. Speaker 2
Yeah. I love that. Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. So you know, he that was his, adversity to abundance story. He was getting fired from the NHL and then creating this company and and now helping so many other people. But definitely recommend the listener go back and listen to that one if if you haven't already. So go Speaker 2
listen to that. Sounds great. Speaker 0
So you ready for some rapid fire questions, Juliet? Speaker 2
Yes, please. Speaker 0
Awesome. What is one thing that people misunderstand about you? Speaker 2
Probably sometimes my energy. They think I've been drinking coffee, and Speaker 0
it's just Speaker 2
who I am. Speaker 0
You don't drink coffee? Speaker 2
I don't. I don't need it. I wake up like this. Speaker 0
Jealous. Speaker 2
But when you're when you're AT and literally doesn't do anything, I don't feel it. It just Gotcha. I already have the energy. Speaker 0
What's one of your biggest failures, regrets, however you wanna frame that, but something you wish you could do over. Speaker 2
So I it's funny. I and, I know there's supposed to be, like, quick questions, but clearly, as you guys heard me, I don't do anything, but it has to be a little bit of a breathy thing. I don't like to look back and say failures. I like to think anything that I've ever done. I've actually learned on them. And so I've been asked this question a lot, and it it there's not like a there's not a one size fits all. I would have to say when I was raising my three kids, or when I'm raising my three kids, there's they're two years apart, a little less than two years apart, and there's definitely times that I wish I was more present that I wasn't trying to get to bedtime because I didn't want them to be cranking the next day. You know, that I wish I was just like kind of because I am go with the flow, but when it came to, like, kids and schedules. I wanted to make sure I was raising these great humans, and I was thinking too much into things. And so sometimes I wish that I just would have been like, Just chill out a Speaker 0
little bit. Yep. If you could give your eighteen year old self some advice, what would that be? Speaker 2
Just keep keep doing what you're doing. I mean, I just stay curious and don't think too much on things. And don't let the negative people ever make you think twice. I'm not one that usually does that, but there's definitely been people, you know, that I've come across that sometimes maybe took the the wind out of my sail a little bit. And to, you know, just Don't worry about them. Speaker 0
Love that. If you were given ten million dollars tomorrow, what would you do with it? Speaker 2
So I would definitely help. I'm I have service heart person dyslexia is one of those things that I would, definitely want to help fund get more kids, especially kids that don't have the funds to do, and then also boxer researchers. I mean, boxer rescue is huge into and just to help really animals and, you know, children that don't have anyone that love them, really give them places. Speaker 0
Yeah. That's great. What is one challenge that you're facing right now in your professional career? Speaker 2
So as as you heard, I have a a some things on my plates. I also have three children. So I'm, again, I'm just trying to go with the flow and not putting too much thought into things and I am when I say I'm gonna do something that is I do it, I have always been that way. If I say I'm gonna get something done, I'm gonna do it, but I also know that I can sometimes overextend myself because I get excited. I I love, you know, I'm excited about things, and just giving myself a little grace. Not not putting too much pressure on things like, okay. I need to maybe do that tomorrow and I need to go to bed now and not stay up too late because if I don't sleep, I'm a bit of a bear. Speaker 0
If you were to start a business tomorrow, not that you need something else to do, but you're you're gonna start a A business. What would that be? Speaker 2
I mean, again, it would, I mean, it would be in the storytelling space. I mean, kinda what I've been doing, but it would really just help more people with getting comfortable with talking about themselves and and not the ego sensual way because I do feel the world is a little a little me me. This is not just kind of look outside, but be able to connect more with people by taking the egos out of your own story. Speaker 0
That's really good. What is a book or two that you could recommend for my listener? Speaker 2
So, I there's this book and I have to look it up. Because I'm gonna I forget about it, but it is it's a mother's memoir, and it is one of the most beautiful books that I listen to, and it really, it it is it makes you cry. Let's just say. And it's it's kind of in your time of your life where, I needed it because we had just moved. As I said, we lost a friend and, it was like, okay, my are getting older. And I I love being a mother. I mean, that was one of the things I always wanted to do. I was very fortunate that I was able to stay home with my children, for as long as, you know, I did. But it was definitely at a time where I was like, I don't wanna let them go, but I know I need to, like, let them grow up a little bit, and I can't believe I can't find it. But it is in Mother's memoir and, Katrina Kenzic is the author. And, I have a thousand, my daughter, and I share our things. So I'm not going to say it, and I'm sorry. I can tell you later. Oh, here it is. Speaker 0
The gift the gift of the ordinary day. I just looked it up. The gift of an ordinary day. Awesome. Speaker 2
It is it is one of the most beautiful beautiful books. Beautiful. Awesome. Speaker 0
What is one question that I have not asked that you wish I had? I think Speaker 2
you did a fantastic job. I I can't say that. Nice. Was there anything that you did not we did not get into? Speaker 0
Awesome. Coming from a triple three time cohost that, you know, that means something. Where can our our listeners find you online, Juliet? Speaker 2
So I am everywhere, and this is a funny story. So Juliet Ton, like Rome j u l I e t, and my last name is Han, h a h n, is, there is also someone else out there with that name. Believe it or not. And she is a Korean woman's look it up, you're gonna be like, wait, that doesn't sound like the same person. And she's a professor at the citadel. So all my socials are I m AM, Juliet Hahn, because she got it. She got it first. But so that is basically LinkedIn is my name, Julie at Han. But everything else is I am and same as my website. And you can find all the pod cast there. I kinda give, like, my favorite stuff. They all, you know, you can search there, but you can also find them at all on pod all podcast players. Speaker 0
Awesome. Fantastic. Yeah. This has this has been really good. I know we we have covered a lot of ground. And, yeah, there's I just what I'm taking from this among other things is, you know, look to your strengths. We all have strengths. I I think this is gonna be a very relatable episode for a lot of lot of people, not that everyone has dyslexia, but it's you know, we've had I've had I've had guests on the show where they had a single engine plane crash or single, I guess, passenger plane crash and should never have lived. And it was this dramatic story, and it's amazing. But most people can't really relate to that. And I think in a lot of ways, your story is very relatable. And also just that Life has seasons, and it's a journey, and and just because you you might hear, signs or receive you know, signals that you should do something, and you should follow that for a while, but it doesn't mean you're locked in forever. But just that, you know, play to your strengths and and be a connector I I just love your positive energy and and, obviously, you've developed your listening skills and your create, you know, creativity. Even though you thought you didn't have that before. So, the the practical tips on podcasting, storytelling, Man, this has been this has been great. So thank you very Speaker 2
much for Speaker 0
your time. Speaker 2
And thank you for reaching out. I really appreciate it. I love, obviously, love sharing, and I love helping people. Really get to that thing because, you know, as I said, everyone has something to share. And, we just we just need to listen. We need to listen to each other and each other a little bit more than I think sometimes the world does and be happy for when you see someone doing something. And you see that they're happy, Don't be the hater. Don't be like, oh, what are they doing? Be the person that's like, you know what? That's awesome. Speaker 0
Yeah. That is really cool. And and for just to be clear, we'd I we did have to track Julia down. Speaker 1
You Speaker 0
know, there some guests are easier to to get on the show than others. And And I like I said, I heard you on another show. I was like, I gotta gotta get her on our podcast. So we finally were successful, so thank you for spending your time with us. Speaker 2
Yeah. Thank you for having me. Speaker 0
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