From Near Bankruptcy to Healing Thousands through Regenerative Medicine: The Journey of Danielle Fette
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Uncover the unexpected: Dive into the world of regenerative medicine with an entrepreneur who's breaking boundaries. From overcoming dyslexia to revolutionizing healthcare, this is a story of resilience, hope, and the power of holistic healing. Find out how a wound care nurse and her tissue engineer husband are transforming lives with groundbreaking medical technology. Stay tuned for insights into natural healing, overcoming adversity, and creating a brighter, healthier future.
My special guest is Danielle Fette
Danielle Fette, the co-founder and chief marketing officer of Fettech, brings a wealth of experience and innovation to the medical field, particularly in regenerative medicine. Overcoming personal challenges, including dyslexia, Danielle has forged a successful career path in healthcare, real estate, and entrepreneurship. Her journey reflects resilience, creativity, and the ability to transform adversity into opportunity. With a background in wound care nursing and a strong trajectory in medical device biotech, Danielle's insights offer a unique perspective on holistic approaches to business and health, making her a valuable guest for entrepreneurs navigating healthcare challenges.
"It's all about money, but these are patients' lives. But at the end of the day, it's a business too. It is, right? And then the fact is, and all this can be so, it could seem very overwhelming and just like, what diet should I do, you know, what. What medication should I take and all this stuff? But at the end of the day, you do need to take ownership of your own situation and your own health." - Danielle Fette
"I don't have an ego. I had to rely on my resources to get me, like, I'm not really, I don't really go deep into any subject, but that I have a lot of, I have enough knowledge to be successful in a lot of different traits, but I always know I have a lot of self-awareness." - Danielle Fette
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Unlocking strategies for overcoming financial challenges in startups.
- Exploring the impact of mental health on entrepreneurial success.
- Embracing the latest advancements in regenerative medicine.
- Discovering how dyslexia can be a unique entrepreneurial strength.
- Navigating the complex process of FDA approval for medical devices.
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This episode with Danielle Fetti was a lot of fun. You are gonna thoroughly enjoy it. Danielle is one of the cofounders. She and her husband cofounded FETTECH, f e t t e c h. They are doing some phenomenal work in the medical field, specifically regenerative medicine. They have two products that are just absolutely transforming the way healing works in the body. So you gotta stay tuned for that toward the end. This one's full of full of a lot of really valuable information. Financial challenges with starting a business, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars, actually millions of dollars into their business, almost being foreclosed on. And, that that's just one example. But we we talk about a lot of other mental health challenges and a lot of tips for overcoming the mental side of adversity. And if you if you listen closely, there's a a thread about how, opportunities arise from specific periods of adversity. And it's only able you're only able to see that through the lens of hindsight. One of the things I loved about this episode was, how Danielle was over able to overcome her dyslexia as a student and and then, essentially how she was, able to point to and use her creative talents and relationship abilities, the strength that she had built, because she had overcome that adversity of dyslexia, the mental fortitude that she had developed because she'd, dealt with the challenges that come along with dyslexia. She was able to take all of that and parlay that into a very successful, career, in medical device sales, but then and also real estate, but then more importantly and more recently, in this regenerative medicine field. And, I mean, just this this one is jam packed with both inspiration and practical tips for entrepreneurs. You're gonna love it. Speaker 2
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Welcome everybody to another episode of the from adversity to abundance podcast. I am your host, Jamie Bateman, and I'm pumped today to have with us Danielle Fetti. Danielle, how are you doing today? Speaker 3
I'm great. I'm excited to talk. Speaker 1
Awesome. Yeah. This is gonna be fun. Danielle is the cofounder and chief marketing officer of FETTEK, and FETTEK is a regenerative medical company. Correct me if I say anything wrong. Speaker 3
No. You're doing great. Speaker 1
So briefly for the listener who may be unfamiliar with you, who are you and and what are you up to today? Speaker 3
I'm a wound care nurse by trade, and I cofounded Fat Tech with my husband, who is a tissue engineer. I have a pretty strong background in medical device, biotech, regenerative medicine, and we discovered ways to advance regenerative medicine by inventing new devices that they use in the hospital throughout the country, and, we just launched our product for aesthetics. So we basically manufacture and develop technology that other people sell in the field. Speaker 1
Got it. Awesome. Yeah. We were chatting briefly beforehand, and I'm really excited to get into more specifics later as far as, you know, where some of the issues that that are that are found among the, the traditional medical system, which has some serious flaws. Let's just be real. Right? So I'm excited to get into kind of that part of your your journey and and why you went the direction you did. But before we get there, I know you've dealt with some a lot of personal adversity. Let's jump back into your backstory. Where do you wanna start? Speaker 3
Well, it's easiest to start, why I'm in health care. So from that time I can remember growing up, I was obsessed with all things medicine. You know, if someone else would fall and get hurt or was sick or even if there was vomit, I would genuinely wanna help. And I noticed I was different early on because other kids and other humans would be squeamish or wanna run away from that. So I had a strong burning desire to help people heal from the time I can remember. And I used to tell people I wanted to be a doctor when I was, like, three, four, five, six. However, I'm dyslexic, so reading and writing is extremely hard for me, and I struggled in school. I mean, getting a c was, like, a bonus. You know? On a good day, I would get a c. I luckily play lacrosse, and I excelled as an athlete. So that got me into college. And then in college, I was like, okay. Let's keep it real here, Daniel. You may think you're majoring in biology or claiming to be a premed major and sometimes cheating on tests to pass, but you're never gonna get into med school or any of the other schools like chiropractic, PT. I explored everything. So I did get into a nursing program. And through doing my rounds in the hospital, I liked helping the patients, but there were so many elements to traditional medicine that I just I felt handcuffed. I felt like I couldn't use my creative juices. I feel like I couldn't give enough time to patients. So if it wasn't right for me to be a floor nurse, I switched over to the medical device biotech side, and I jumped around quite a bit through sales and marketing and clinical specialist roles where I was in the OR teaching surgeons how to use the most cutting end edge technology. And that to me was very rewarding. I felt important in these roles. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
So for example, a neurosurgeon, they would put a pacemaker and the leads would go into the brain in surgery, and I was the one teaching them how to use the new technology that was not available when they were in med school. And I learned working for other people what I loved and admired in leaders and what I absolutely hated and would never be like as a leader. It's all very ugly behaviors, which shocked me because, you know, I know a lot of humans operate from a place of wanting to make money, but when it's health care, I mean, we're all gonna be patients one day. And really early on, I I was shocked by the behaviors I was seeing behind the scenes working for others. It was all about the money. And it re really was never even if they claimed, oh, it's about patients. We care about patients. I'm like Mhmm. Bullshit. It's not excuse my French. But, like, it's not about the patients, and I get really passionate and and worked up. So I job hopped from company to company thinking that things would be different. And regardless if it was the biggest Fortune five hundred company or a start up medical device company, I saw the same behaviors. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
I then explored entrepreneurship. There was a time, like, the online boom of the Internet. My sister and I had a clothing store, an online boutique, and that was really exciting because, like, I got to learn behind the scenes how to build websites and sell products. Again, it was the boom of the Internet. And at that same time, I also got into real estate, which I'm mentioning because I know you focus on that on your podcast. Speaker 1
Absolutely. Yeah. Speaker 3
I I still held on to my solid career in medical device, but I'm pretty good at getting things done Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
In a lot in less time and a lot less steps than my peers. So I was able to do both. I was able to be the the lead salesperson and make great commissions working for others. And then behind the scenes, I was able to work with my sister and run a company and also dabble in real estate, which I actually loved real estate. Speaker 1
Nice. Yeah. Let's let's, before we get there, because I definitely wanna dive into that a little bit. So dyslexia, I mean, I think that's one of those, you know, sort of misunderstood not sort of, very misunderstood challenges. I don't know if you refer to it as a disorder, condition, but, you know, what I guess and most many people maybe already know this, but what what is dyslexia, and what does it really how does it actually come to fruition in in everyday life? Speaker 3
Well, just picture being in a classroom and knowing how smart you are. Like, so clever you could figure anything out, and you were typically, like, leaps and bounds. Like, if if there's a street, you were at the end of the street mentally before people could even figure out how to take a couple steps. However, you always felt stupid because teachers would say to you, are are you trying? Like, why are you scoring so low if if you're so smart? And I can memorize anything. So maybe it didn't sound like I was reading, but when the teacher would call on kids to read in class, I was smart enough to be like, okay. Ten paragraphs down is going to be my turn because I'm looking at the patterns of when she's going from kid to kid. So So I'm gonna memorize this by the time it gets to me, not focusing on anything else, but memorizing those three lines. I see. You become very strategic and very smart, but it is hard because it is embarrassing to feat to know how intelligent you are. But when we went to, Juliet and I, who was on your show, we went to the same high school. It was a very predominant like, education was everything. I mean, all my friends were going, like, Ivy League for the most part. And Yeah. So it was hard and embarrassing not being able to get those grades. And there were times, like, you pretend you don't care, but, of course, it's like, this stinks. However, I I didn't I didn't feel badly about myself. I just was embarrassed in those moments because I knew how smart I was, and I had to rely on how creative I was to get ahead. I had to use my ability to build relationships, to strategically do things faster than everyone, so they couldn't find me out. You know, I had to get creative. I mean, I play lacrosse. That got me into college. But once I was in college, I didn't qualify to get in the nursing program, but I figured out how to backdoor into it. You know? Medical device, I was told, you know, you're you're never gonna get this job. You have no experience. These people in the waiting room have, you know, ten years experience in this you're this young kid right out of school. I'm like, watch me. And I talked my way into the job, you know, with with, Eli Lilly right out of college. So I'm proud that I have these superpowers, if you will, to get creative and to not be afraid of failing. I I'm so used to failing growing up. It's all how it's all what you do about it. Right? It's all how you pivot. And, pivoting is so huge in everyday life. So if you can identify, this doesn't feel right, not the best path to go down. And the Right. The quicker you pivot and and make a change, the better and faster your your result is going to be, and I've always had to do that. Speaker 1
Yeah. I love that. And there's so much there that you just there's just there there's a lot to unpack there. There's a you know, absolutely. Figuring out, especially for entrepreneurs, whether real estate entrepreneur or not, figuring out when to pivot and when to hold or stay the course or maybe just slightly, you know, move off course a little bit to still reach your goals, that is one of those never ending challenges, those tensions that just never goes away. Because if if you pivot every day, pull a ninety degree or one eighty, you're never gonna get anywhere. Right? But but if you're just stubborn, like, you know, just I I am set on this this for years and years. You're not listening. You're not taking into account market conditions or anything else. You're also not gonna be successful that way. So, but I love several things you said. First off, when you said that, you know, that you were embarrassed, and you kind of implied that back in school that the teachers viewed you as, you know, well, you said stupid. Right? And I recall so I'm so this is not I I don't think nearly it's not anywhere as challenging as being dyslexic, but I'm colorblind. Right? And so I know I have a blue shirt on. No. I'm kidding. But, the that's that's what happens is people always ask, what's this color? But but I remember back in, I think it was first grade, but it was definitely elementary school. We had to go do this the vision testing at school, and I remember the the nurse or I think it was a nurse, giving the test and, you know, she was just had done a bunch of them, tired of the test, whatever. And she says that it was that I think it's called the the test or something. I don't know how you say it, but the the dots that you're you're supposed to pick out numbers and letters, you know, based on the the colors. Well, I couldn't see anything. You know, she would say, okay. What's what letter do you see? And I would just see dots. And I'm just like, I don't so I don't know what you're talking about. What do you and so it was, I mean, it it was kinda traumatic because it's like she's insinuating that I'm being difficult or, you know, just just answer the question so I can get to my next person here and then Speaker 3
Exactly. Speaker 1
Well, no. I don't I don't I am smart, but I don't see a number or a letter. So, like, I don't know what you're talking about. Speaker 3
Know that there's anything different. It's the way make people make you feel, and you have no control over it Speaker 1
Correct. Speaker 3
Which is really interesting. But, you know, my mom used to say, in life, you're all dealt over and over again a hand of cards, and it's how you play those cards. It's what you do with that hand. And I think a lot of entrepreneurs, whether it's real estate or other businesses, they get so emotionally attached, like you said. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
And it's important to know when to put them down and move on. Yeah. That that hand. And I think I'm really good at that Yeah. Because I don't have attachment to situations. Like Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 3
And I think that stems from the dyslexia and being okay with sucking at something Speaker 1
Right. Speaker 3
But also having the confidence. Like, if I want to learn something and be good at something, I know how to do it. Speaker 1
Yeah. No. I love that. And real quickly, before we because I definitely wanna get into the rest of your story because I know it's fascinating. I remember, I saw a recent clip. It was Grant Cardone, who's a real estate entrepreneur, real estate investor, and controversial guy, but, he had a clip of and I think it was specifically about dyslexia. And, it may have been also about anxiety and some other, you know, mental health conditions. But the fact is that entrepreneurs have a higher level of mental health and other type similar type of of challenges or conditions that the broader population doesn't necessarily have. And you can get into all kinds of debates about does entrepreneurship cause mental health challenges? Well, maybe. I mean, it's definitely not easy. Right? But but I think so his point, and I think he's spot on, is that was that because Danielle has overcome, you know, in your case, dyslexia or at least dealt with that head on and figured out how to still be successful and to pivot and use your relationships and your creativity as you've already talked about, Focus on your strengths and figure out a way to make it work because you've already overcome that you've built that mental capacity and that strength because you have had that adversity. Now these challenges that come along with entrepreneurship, you're able to navigate probably better than the straight a student who doesn't have dyslexia. What what do you say about that? Speaker 3
A a million percent. And I also think a huge part is I don't have an ego. I've had to rely on my resources to get me like, I'm I'm I'm not real I don't really go deep into any subject, but I have a lot of, I have enough knowledge to be successful in a lot of different traits, but I always know where I mean, I have a lot of self awareness. So I know when I don't know something, and I know when I need help, and I know the resources to go to get to where I need to be. So, like, my team, like, I surround myself with amazing humans that are all very unique and bring different skill sets to the table where I've seen leaders where that intimidates. They don't want people that are better than them in certain areas where I welcome it, love it. That's how I got through chemistry lab. You know, I always make sure I had better partners than myself. So, again, it just I I I feel badly for kids sometimes that do really well in school, and parents tell them how great they are, and they're people pleasers. And then when they get older, what's gonna happen because you're not always perfect, and you need to learn how to say, I'm not sure, but I'm gonna go and get the help I need. And that it's crucial to being good in business. Speaker 1
Totally. And then the fact is our the education system in large part, especially the on the public side is is just archaic, and it's set up to train kids to work in, you know, for in a factory or manufacturing and that kind of thing. And it's, I think, slowly coming along, but, lot of great people in the education system, but the system itself does not set you up well to be an entrepreneur. So and I love the the you've touched on this a couple times, but the just the what you learned from seeing other leaders and, what you did and didn't like in that regard and the fact that the medical system in particular is set up for profit first, and there's nothing wrong with making a profit. I know, you know, entrepreneurs want to make a profit. We we should want to make a profit. Right? But, if you end up putting that above other peep other the patient's health, for example, that's not okay. So, I guess before we move into the real estate thing, what what were, like, one or two examples that were that were really disheartening for you in the medical field with regard to, you know, profit first? Oh, you know, we don't have to name names, of course, but what comes to mind? Speaker 3
I mean, I can give you little examples because bigger companies are very narrow minded on what's gonna give me the maximum revenue. So we had a product that you used in the body that would signal to heal and repair. And I wanted to use it for nipple reconstruction post mastectomy. Speaker 1
Okay. Speaker 3
But if you think about the size of a nipple, it's really small, and it's very important for women that have mastectomies. So think about a nipple compared to, like, a huge open stomach, for example. If you sold product, the say the same product for a huge open stomach, you're gonna make more revenue than a tiny nipple. But for me, I'm like, we're all gonna be patients one day, and someone's gonna need help. And that's someone's mom and sister. And if we can develop a device that can help that person feel more comfortable in their own skin, like, why wouldn't we do it? But it was all about money. Mhmm. And then the the icing on the cake for me and and why I formed our company with my husband, Fedtech, was we were working for another company, and they knew that they were making product that could potentially not be good used on patients, but they didn't wanna throw away the product. And I'm like, okay. My husband and I like, we don't stand for this. Like, we are done. Like, because they the company at the time wanted a quick cash exit. They were a startup company, and they wanted as much revenue as possible so they could sell the company, cash out, move on. And, you know, when you see things like that you know, at the time, I was working with a neonate in the hospital, treating them for a massive infection. I'm like, I'm putting this product in them. Like, even knowing what goes on behind the scenes, it it was so scary to me. So from my husband and I, we knew we could develop better products. We know we could cut through the red tape to get them to the patients that needed these products faster. And we wanted to do things for the right reasons because I I believe if you have a passion and you have a purpose, you can make money and still do the right thing. We always knew that we knew our product was amazing. So we knew the money would be there, but that's not what drove us to want to start our company. We just wanted to take off the handcuffs and not answer to other people because there's nothing worse than knowing you have a better idea or you can do things better. And then the layers of tape kick in, and you can't get creative, and you can't execute your vision the way you want to. You're answering to other people. Absolutely. Started our company, we didn't we chose to do it the really hard way. We didn't take outside funding. We had people that wanted to give us funding, but I'm like, I'm not selling my soul to the devil because that's what's wrong with the companies we've worked for. They want they got outside funding, they answer to a board, and they wanted a quick exit. My my husband and I were were very aligned with morals and values, and we're like, we're we're gonna do this our way. So, you know and that was just a confidence that I had in both myself and Clay. Mhmm. My husband to develop the best products out there. So there were times I mean, really, talk about, like, hitting ground zero. No money, car repoed, house was in foreclosure, robbing Peter to pay Paul just to get all the tests that you need to get FDA clearance. But there was a period of time where, you know, I had done really well in my life. I had Mhmm. You know, real estate and other businesses and had a huge cushion working for other people. You know, I was paid very well working in biotech and medical device. And my husband was home in the lab, and all the money we made went into getting FDA clearance. Speaker 1
But Speaker 3
You can imagine I mean, we went from, like, riches to rags pretty quickly. My poor oldest daughter now is like, gosh. I grew up way differently than my youngest now is growing up just because we're you know, the worlds were so different. Speaker 1
Sure. So and, briefly, what was the the real estate? Was it were you doing real estate sales, or what what did you do on the side for that? Speaker 3
So I had saved money as a medical device, exec and having my own business with my sister. And I'm like, where do where do I wanna get into, to invest my money? And I have always liked real estate. My parents used to flip real estate Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
As a side gig growing up. I mean, I remember going and scrubbing cockroaches with my mom when I was really young and then flipping these really gross houses, but they made great profit on it. When I moved, after going to University of Delaware to Florida, at the time, real estate was still affordable. And I just saw projections and plans for downtown Fort Lauderdale, and I'm like, I wanted in on it. So I would do a couple things. I would either buy I would get in with the developers and buy preconstruction and flip it before I moved in because there are some I don't know. I know every state's different. But depending on the developers I would work with, I because I was friends with them, they would give me first rates, and you could flip it once before it was actually ever closed on. So I did that. And then there were a couple other properties I wanted to hold on longer to because I knew the projections of building downtown. So I would hold on to them rent but this was, like, two thousand and four to two thousand and nine. And and for those of you in real estate know, the market definitely took a turn starting in two thousand seven. So I got to experience short sales and foreclosures and stuff like that. Speaker 1
Gotcha. Speaker 3
I'm very grateful that that happened in retrospect because that kind of made me stay in medical device, which is my passion. Helping people people heal really is my passion and is my gift. I just didn't know how to combine my entrepreneurial creative side Mhmm. With the health care wanting to help entrepreneurial creative side with the health care wanting to help patients heal kind of Speaker 1
thing. No. That makes a lot of sense, and that's I'm guessing took a little bit of time to view it that way. Just based on my own experience, it it's hard to see, you know, adversity as a blessing in in the moment. You know? So if you're if you're experiencing the the wrong side of a foreclosure or short sale, it's not fun. Right? And so you're it's but but in hindsight, you're saying that you're able to now you're now able to focus on your gifts and your your experience and really your passion is really what you're talking about. Your passion to help people through, medical devices and and and help people on the health side of things and incorporate your entrepreneurial passion and and, drive there. So, okay. So, you and your husband decided to start Fedtech. Right? Is that how how it went? Or did you Speaker 3
Yeah. So I met him in the field. I was actually in a head on drunk driving accident at three in the afternoon, and I was on leave. And someone called me from a local hospital that I lived a couple, miles from and said, we have a patient with this rare, disease where the skin attacks itself, and nothing's helping this patient heal. Little did I know that patient was a friend of mine, but I didn't know at the time I offered to help. And I had called the company that made the product, and my husband was one of the developers of this product. They licensed it out to our company, and we sold it. I'm like, is there anyone in Florida that can help us? Because, you know, the company at the time was in Chicago, and the other branch was in Maryland. And they sent him down, and he walked into the room, and I was very intrigued by his lack of ego, but his level of intelligence to speak at every level. And together, we helped this patient, and it was strictly a friendship. He was actually married at the time. But it was just really refreshing. You know, you always get nervous when you have some someone from corporate fly to the field. Oh my god. Here we go again. Speaker 1
I'm just Speaker 3
gonna pitch a product, and I just wanna help this darn patient. Speaker 1
Right. I'm gonna see your ego's gonna be so so overkill and right. But but that's not what happened. Speaker 3
Yes. Exactly. So we work together, and we would, while we were waiting in the things eye to eye. We saw how we could take the products he was developing and use them in different therapeutic areas in the hospital, and we grew the company by leaps and bounds just by collaborating. And he was like a magician. Like, I would have ideas, and then he would go into the lab and, like, create the changes needed. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, I have visions. He has visions, and then I have someone that can actually produce what I'm thinking of. So at the time, like I said, I was on leave because I was in an accident. I couldn't drive. Clay actually moved. He's a Midwest, nice guy, who moved to Fort Lauderdale because his wife at the time had mental illness. And I met him, and, my sister and I are, like, inseparably codependent and close. And she's a family therapist in child, child development. And I remember Clay saying to me, hey. Listen. I need to tell you the truth. Like, I don't know anyone in Florida. My wife has mental illness, and she has tried to take her life before. And, God forbid, I ever need you. I have a nine year old. Could you and your sister help out? And at this time, we were single in Fort Lauderdale. I mean, I was in the prime of my, I'm never getting married. I go out way too much and have too much of a social life. Speaker 1
And And and I can say, by the way, we we stayed and we went to Fort Lauderdale in December. And there's definitely a party party atmosphere. Speaker 3
I mean, I lived out the park. I mean, my life was a big party. I I don't I don't know how. I I did yoga. I didn't sleep. I went from my clothing boutique to fashion shows to going out and didn't didn't had no urge to commit to in a relationship. So, anyway, you know, to a couple months after meeting Clay, I, we found out that his wife took her life, and he had to travel for work. So my sister and I moved into his house, and I don't think I've ever said this on a podcast. But, we moved into his house, and, you know, a couple months in, we realized we had a connection that was undeniable. But I I hid it from everyone because I was actually embarrassed because his wife I I loved her. I knew her. I mean, I loved who the person that she was. I I knew her. We didn't have, like, a close relationship because I just met them. But I also fell in love with his daughter who I have since adopted and is now my twenty four year old. But, it it is a beautiful love story in a sense. It's like, clearly, someone wanted my husband and I to get together for the better good of humanity because this if you had asked me when I met him if this is someone I would date or ever married, I'd be like, there's no way. But I kind of fell in love with his daughter through helping take care of her, and then there was an undeniable connection that we had. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
So after a year, of being together, we actually moved to Maryland for this company, left my family. And that's we helped develop their products, and we had stock options, and we believe so deeply in that company. Two years after moving, I got pregnant. This is when we discovered that the product wasn't good. We shouldn't sell it, and my husband wouldn't sign off on it. So upon having a baby, we were both fired. We were out of jobs. Living in Maryland Speaker 1
So just to clarify the and I don't know if you can say more specifically, but, it's not so much that the product might not have benefits, but this you actually saw that there was clear potential downside for Speaker 3
benefits. You know, I I know it's a legal thing. Speaker 1
People Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3
But Yeah. I don't know what I can and cannot say, but I we had a strong belief that it wasn't the right thing to do was to sign off on it. Speaker 1
Got it. Understood. Yeah. Okay. So you both you you got pregnant, and then you you both got hired from your job. Speaker 3
We were the the month I had my youngest daughter. We were both out of jobs. Luckily, sales marketing, I can get a job anywhere. I mean Sure. But his my husband is one of five tissue engineers that develop devices and regenerative medicine. I mean, there's really not many of him in the world. Sure. So we said, you know what? This is our sign. We're gonna do it ourselves. We're gonna develop better products because you know how, and he's had these visions, and we've been up brainstorming. We were just gonna do them with this other company because we believed in the company, and we're we're pretty loyal. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
I think this is our opportunity. And so I went to work. He's he stayed in the lab. We moved back to Florida. And now here we are today with two FDA cleared products. We've used our products on thousands of patients. And time and time again, we see miracles because patients that ordinarily would have trouble healing or would take a really long time pain and suffering, whether it's a patient that's been in a fire, a traumatic car accident, a chronic wound. You know, I pinch myself in gratitude. I say that on every podcast because it never gets old when you get Awesome. A patient to hug and kiss you and say, I don't know what I would do without you. This stuff really is magic. You saved my leg or you saved my life or you saved my baby. I mean, I've saved humans before. So that feeling is what motivates me every day. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
But it also keeps me up at night, and it I've had to learn to balance my mental health and really learn to listen to my emotions to guide me through life because this is greater than me. I mean, at some point, you talk about it, and it feels surreal. And you say to yourself, okay. If this is my purpose, actually, the fact we figured out how to do this and the fact we're able to help people restore where there's injury in their body means, you know, I have to rely and trust that there's something greater than me out there wherever you wanna call it or whatever you believe in. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
And I've really had to check how my head feels versus, like, my gut intuition to get through and make better business decisions. Speaker 1
Interesting. So do you is there I mean, that makes sense, but do you have kind of an example of what you mean by that? Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean okay. So there's a lot of times on paper that a transaction or a deal would be like, wow. That's that seems like a great opportunity. This person It Speaker 1
pencils out. Yeah. On paper. Speaker 3
Like, it checks out. Like, we could make money, and this is an opportunity. But something deep inside myself is not excited to do it, and I can't identify why. Like, I'm like, there's no logical reason behind this, but something inside, like, I'm not really quick to wanna pick up the pen and get excited and go to dinner with this person. I should be excited to go have dinner. I should be excited for this meeting. Everyone's told me this person's the biggest thing since sliced bread, but I don't know why I have no motivation. And then I have to remind myself, Danielle, it's not because you're lazy. It's not because you're not hungry. Listen to these emotions. And my sister has really installed upon me because I am a very impulsive person. I like things yesterday, and I don't like to wait. But I've had to learn that if I don't if I'm not excited about a decision to pause and I don't have to feel like I have to make a decision. Mhmm. And making no decision making no decision is better than making a decision and have to backpedal out of it because that's where you lose momentum and time as an entrepreneur and in in business. You make a couple bad business decisions, and you wake up really quickly what can I learn here from this, and how do I not do do this again? And for me, it was making a couple mistakes, and I'm like, this cost me time and money and emotional stress. Like, I I get attached to people. So if relationships don't work out, whether it's business or personal Yeah. It eats away at me. And I can't have that if I wanna be successful and help heal a lot of people. Mhmm. So I thought, okay. I had signs. I had warnings. I don't know about this, and I went through with it anyway. So I've had to really, like, tap into those emotions and pay attention. Again, you may not know the answer. You don't need to know the answer, and you don't need to know the why. But if something doesn't really light you up and excite you, pause and do nothing. Don't act on it. Speaker 1
And then Speaker 3
the answer will come. Speaker 1
That's great. And and you're absolutely right. I mean, I have that same type of, as an entrepreneur, the same impatient drive. I mean, I wanna see results immediately. The the risk for me ends up being, making bad decisions, you know, because I'm impatient or doing too many things, and and therefore not doing anything well, doing everything on an average or, you know, b plus level or something instead of focusing. And, so that's, something that I think I need to hear over and over again as well as what you just said is lining up. Yeah. The it should pencil out. There should be the logical piece that it makes sense, of course. Right? But even more importantly, tapping into that intuition and pausing, like you said, that's what you're it just pausing to make a decision. You don't almost nothing is actually on fire and has to be done immediately. So if you can pause, think about it for a day or two or a week or whatever, create that mental time to tie into your emotion, like you said, and make a better decision. Speaker 3
Right. And and the reason why I say emotion is because it's easy to get in your own head and to justify or to talk to too many people that are gonna justify the decision that you ultimately wanna make. And I used to do that. I used to let me talk through this situation because the truth is I know I should probably do it, but I have hesitation. So maybe all these other people could convince me, like, no. I should do that. Mhmm. Instead, now I pause. I'm like, okay. Why do I have any hesitation? And if I feel the need to talk to someone else to justify the decision, I need to pause. And I stopped trying to figure Speaker 1
out Speaker 3
why, the why behind it Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
And be okay with some things you're not supposed to know. One day, I'll look back, and I'll know this is why it unfolded. Oh, that's why I didn't wanna use that speaker. Oh, that's why I didn't wanna sign that license deal. It doesn't need to make sense in the moment. Speaker 1
Got it. That's that's good. It's really good. Okay. Before we get into I wanna drill into the the products, the two products you have. But before we get there, you mentioned, okay, you were doing really well financially, and then you really you and your husband were struggling financially because you put all the money into the the FDA approvals, I believe. What did that look like from a personal and family standpoint? You know, where were you before, and then and how many years were you living in? You know, was it was it bankruptcy, poverty? You know, what what did it look like? I mean, Speaker 3
we had our house, but there were times where I might you know, in Florida, I felt like education because my daughter also has dyslexia. So going to a private school to me was, like, top tier, like, priority. But there were times I'm like, what do I do? Pull her out of school or, like, they're gonna come and repo my car, which was embarrassing because, you know, like, I lived in a nice neighborhood and, you know, it was on Zillow that my house was in pre foreclosure. And I know friends were talking about it, and it was interesting to see people view me differently because they thought I had less than them, which is like, I was I was okay and comfortable because I knew at the long run how well we would do, and we made this choice. We could have taken funding, like I said earlier, but we didn't want to. But, it was hard because it it takes about five, six years. So you're let's talk about a marathon and not a race. And you have to be patient because you have to do more tests. And, you know, just when you think you're close, the FDA may say, hey. We need this one more safety test, or we need this one more clinical evaluation. And that's, you know, a hundred thousand dollars. And it we spent millions. I mean, our life savings went into this project. But, again, we just had faith, and we knew where we wanted to be and and why. And, luckily, we had supportive family, so there were times we'd have to call, like, a brother-in-law and be like, hey. You lend us fifty thousand dollars so I can not lose my house this time. Speaker 1
Right. Wow. Speaker 3
You know, hurricane happened. That helped a lot with real estate because you can get a forbearance on your mortgage. So Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3
Sure. That most people would probably cry over, we were excited that helped us Speaker 1
get there. There's always every problem brings an opportunity. Right? Or, you know, something For sure. A plus that wasn't there before. So okay. Alright. Let's talk about the two products. I mean, what are what are the products that you offer? How do they actually help people? Speaker 3
Yeah. So my husband's a tech tissue engineer, and, basically, what he takes are elements of tissues, the biomolecules we need to facilitate healing. So in layman's terms, if you're healthy enough to heal, so say, Jamie, you cut your finger, Your body would go in through inflammatory response, which is that redness, that swelling. It's bringing all the biomolecules to the area, and then it's telling it how to heal. But our body's natural reaction is to form scar tissue. And scarring is really just a way for our bodies to put a quick patch on what's open so we don't get further infection. So the premises behind regenerative medicine and again, that's if if you are healthy enough to heal. If you have a comorbidity, like if you have diabetes or an autoimmune or you've just had radiation, you know, and you have cancer, your body naturally won't be able to heal and restore the way someone that doesn't have those comorbidities. Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 3
Regenerative medicine is how do we take the best biomolecules that our bodies naturally have Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
And put them into the injury to tell your body how to repair and remodel differently. So when you take what my husband has made and put it into an injury, it's going to signal to your body. It's gonna say, okay, stem cells. Come here. Now don't go on through inflammatory. So the pain, the redness, that's not happening. And then no scar tissue. And some patients still have a little bit of something. But, ultimately, it's signaling your body to heal differently. And wherever there's injury in your body, now you're gonna repair the injury. And it's pretty wild. It sounds like sci fi medicine. We used it. We were cleared topically. So if you I've helped soldiers that were blown up in war and their, you know, legs were blown up and, we put it on them to heal. Or a patient, instead of needing all these skin grafts after a fire, you can use our material, you know, fill in the area, and then the skin will heal across and minimal to no scarring. I fell in love with this product. My husband and I were like, okay. How do we take this powder and and help all different kind of areas? Not just topical, but Mhmm. If you have traumatic brain injury or spinal cord injury, those are injuries. What if you have a heart attack and your heart muscle dies, could we inject our material into the heart to help it function? So we had all these ideas, but we needed to turn the powder into a gel form so that we could inject it. Uh-huh. So over COVID, that's what we did. We took the powder. We turned it into a gel. And then somewhere along the line, I realized in the world of aesthetics, our skin is our biggest organ in our body, and it's really important to take care of it. Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 3
Side note, even though I come from medicine, I'm actually granola crunch, and I love all things natural. So I actually don't agree with conventional medicine. And if it was up to me, for me and my family, I try to do everything possible to fix, repair, heal naturally before I will rely on conventional medicine. And I do think there's a time and a place. There's a there's a Right. A blend that has to occur, but I I don't look at it all one way or the other. It doesn't have to be just eastern or Speaker 1
just western medicine. Totally. And and and, I'm by no means an expert, but I've just gotten more and more into I'm working with a nurse practitioner myself right now who is, she left the traditional medical field, to start, I think, about four years ago to start a functional medicine, you know, holistic medicine, whatever you wanna call it, a practice, because because the traditional medical system is so broken, and and we do tend to not use our bodies. I mean, it's the most powerful resource we have is the body itself. Right? It's just to for for physical healing, I'm talking about. We we tend to not use that and just slap on some some external, you know, solution that that then creates additional side effects and other problems that then you gotta go take this other medication for that. And, and I think you I mean, no doubt. I'm just you know, there are a lot more and more podcasts out there, more and more I think people are starting to wake up, starting to realize that the system is broken and and, you know, that we've gotta go in a more natural, holistic way. So I think you you're clearly out in front of this this curve and and I and riding the wave. And and, obviously, there's ton of work. You're not just riding the wave, but I think your timing is fantastic from a market standpoint. Speaker 3
No. It really is. And, like, when we started this I mean, we've been doing this for over twenty years. My my husband's been inventing the most predominantly used devices in the hospital he has helped work on, but there wasn't much evolution Speaker 1
Mhmm. In Speaker 3
the space because, again, the ton the the tunnel vision. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
So, again, we're proud of Fedtech because we're advancing it quicker than the other companies can because of our forward thinking mentalities. But I think of it like this. As humans, we thrive in in a perfect environment. Right? You're surrounded by good people. You feel supported. You feel loved. You're gonna do better. Speaker 1
Sure. Absolutely. Speaker 3
So our cells are the same way. Our cells thrive in the perfect environment. And right now, we know clinically, you know, there's a lot of talk about biohacking and Speaker 1
Mhmm. Yeah. Speaker 3
Again, like, how you eat, mental stresses, mental toxicity, you know, there EMF. Like, there's lighting. There's so many different things that contribute to our cells not being healthy. And I think that if our cells are not in the right environment to thrive, disease happens, and it presents as cancer, and it presents as autoimmune and all these different problems. But no one's talking, okay. Instead of putting a Band Aid and masking all that Speaker 1
Right. Speaker 3
How do we fix and get to the root of the problem? Yeah. And that's where I'm really excited to explore with our MTP platform. It's a multi tissue platform is is what we developed. Because if we can restore and rebalance the environment that the cells are in and then tell those cells what we need to do to repair and balance the body out, That's how we're getting true regenerative healing. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
So it even though we've been using this for twenty some years in the hospital Mhmm. You know, now it's exciting because I think humanity is catching up and Right. Talking about stem cells and talking about alternative ways to heal. So I think it's just a matter of time Sure. Where this whole thing blows up. The biggest challenge is what the FDA recognizes and wants to accept versus, like, what doesn't go through the FDA. So when you talk about, like, stem cell so instead of putting outside stem cells into your body Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
Which are not do not go through the FDA clearance and regulatory. Our product does go through FDA and regulatory. We're putting all naturally what you have in your body to make your own body stem cells come to the area and then give them the instructions they need to know what to do to repair the injury. Speaker 1
Got it. So both of your products do do that. Is that right? Speaker 3
Yeah. It's it's basically the same exact technology. The first, thing we made was a powder, honestly, just because it was easier to make. And then from the powder, we turned it into a gel Got it. Which took a lot of time to figure out how do you make it into a gel? How do you preserve all the properties of the bio molecules in there? And it's you know, the science behind it is so fascinating because we think we know, but we're just scratching the surface. We're we're we're discovering new biomolecules and peptides and proteins that are in our body, like, every day behind the scenes. Speaker 1
It's amazing. And I've just because of some family mental health challenges, I've gotten more and more into understanding, you know, learning. There's so much well, so much I don't know, but I'm I'm starting to appreciate how little it really is known about mental health. And but but the fact is, I think it's more and more pointing the evidence is pointing to the fact that mental health is tied into brain health and physical health and and truly the at at the cell and mitochondria level, it's all interconnected. And instead, we have I mean, unfortunately, I should say, we have these, you know, hundreds of specializations in the medical field. Right? Nothing wrong with specializations. Obviously, your your husband is a specialist and super smart in in in what he does, but it almost feels like it's just so splintered that nobody's bringing it all together, and and that's really what's needed here. Speaker 3
Totally. We're all connected. Our bodies are all energy. What happens in your oral health will affect your body. What happens in your gut affects your whole body. And, unfortunately, when clinicians are trained, it's very segregated. You know, you learn about one you master one body system. Speaker 1
Sure. Speaker 3
And I feel bad for the doctors, to be honest. My friends that are nurses and doctors, they're not taught this whole world. They're not taught to think outside the box. They're dictate the insurance companies and and the hospitals are who's banking. But as patients were frustrated and then as health care providers were frustrated, I don't have the answer. But I know the more I can try to help educate Yeah. Humans and patients because we're all gonna be patients one day, the more I want people to feel empowered that not anyone has all the answers. And just to really feel comfortable asking questions, asking why are you using this product over that one? How did you come to that decision? What other products would be available for what I have? Because you never know. Like, a lot of times hospitals will only use what's on contract and were they getting the best deal. Doesn't mean it's the best product available. And the doctor may not be able to use products based on what's not on formulary. So there's a lot of things that go into health care behind the scenes. I wish it wasn't that way. Speaker 1
Right. Speaker 3
You know, it's a in in your mind, it's like in other businesses, I get it. It's about money, but these are patients' lives. But at the end of the day, it's a business too. Speaker 1
It is. Right? And and the fact is and and all this can be so it could seem very overwhelming and just, like, what diet should I do? You know? What what, medication should I take and all this stuff. But at the end of the day, you do need to take ownership of your own situation and your own health. And and, I mean, companies like yours are clearly helping people in in such a positive way. So talk about what what is, like, what is your what specific, I guess, conditions does your does FETTECH address, and what do you not address? You said natural healing and wound healing. What really, what's who's your ideal avatar, client, I guess, of your client? Speaker 3
Well, right now, we have the two products we have, we treat the patients in the hospital that have been through burn, chronic wound, trauma. And now we have the gel, which Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
Will be used in the aesthetic market to strengthen your skin and make it appear younger. We through getting FDA clearance, we had to prove if our product was infected with virus, how would that transmit to patients? We kept failing this test, and we spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to redo it. And then through that, we discovered that our material actually deactivates an envelope virus. And at the time, this was right before COVID. I didn't know what an envelope virus was, so I googled it. And it I googled it. It said herpes and shingles. I'm like, great. I do get a fever blister, which is a form of a herpes once a year on my lip, and I will use the product. But Mhmm. At that time, that didn't feel like my life mission on our whiteboard was, like, traumatic brain injury, MS, heart attack, like those osteoarthritis. However, then COVID broke out, we googled envelope virus, and we found out that COVID is an envelope virus. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
And some of the world's most deadly diseases not diseases. The the the hardest viruses to treat, like HIV, Ebola, Marsburg. So now we're working with the government to do tasks. I'm actually leaving for Australia in a couple of days to, to, a company, one of the most world renowned scientists that's done some awesome research using our material against herpes and shingles, at the time this is gonna air. I guess I can say it. But Mhmm. Against, Valtrex. She looked at our material and other products on the market used for herpes and shingles. You have to, a, catch it very early within, like, three days. Else, they don't prevent the spread of herpes and shingles. Mhmm. But, also, there's toxicity to them, and they can't always use be used in combination with other therapies. So I'm beyond pumped that our product not only worked, but it worked, even if you caught the herpes or shinger shingles later on. And it's all natural. So there's no toxicity. There's no problems. You can use it in conjunction with any other therapies. So it's totally groundbreaking. But my husband and I laugh. Like, I really am a wound and skin expert. Like, I know more than most in that space. And my husband in tissue engineering. However, we know nothing about viruses. So, like, right now, I'm trying to study and read and learn everything there is to know. Fascinated with viruses, but that's, like, a whole different language to me. Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, that's and just to point out, that's another example of where you said you had to spend a hundred thousand dollars or several hundred thousand dollars on this testing. So that's that's bad. Right? Could be viewed as a Speaker 3
At the time, I could have, like I was, like, crying. Speaker 1
Right. But it's like, you just talked about what the the good that came out of that that that wouldn't have come out of that, and it wouldn't have happened. It sounds like or you wouldn't have realized how how good your product was had you not gone through that adversity with the FDA testing. Absolutely. I got that right. Speaker 3
Yeah. You did. You nailed it. Speaker 1
Awesome. Alright. So as we start to wrap up here, Danielle, I've got some rapid fire questions. Are you ready? Speaker 3
Sure. Speaker 1
Alright. So this one tends to trip people up a little bit. What do people misunderstand about you? You personally. Speaker 3
I think some people in my career have thought I'm too nice and have tried to take advantage, but you pushed me too far, and I'm not messing around. And if if you mess with like, I can endure a lot more individually. But if something crosses the line with my family, my children, or people I care about, I will handle it very quickly and very effectively. So it's almost like the mama bear clause Speaker 1
coming out. Gonna say mama bear. Speaker 3
Know. Like, do not cross the line. Like, do not, misinterpret my kindness and generosity for stupidity. Speaker 1
Love it. If you could go back and give your eighteen year old self, some advice, what would that be? Speaker 3
I would I would have taught myself to slow down and pause and listen to my emotions earlier on and stop being so obsessed with needing to figure everything out and be more intrigued with, like, it's okay not to know. And the reasons why it's okay not to know, just follow the little breadcrumbs, but you don't have to have, like, the be all and end all answers all at once. Speaker 1
Mhmm. But you Speaker 3
don't need to know your five year plan. You just need to know what feels good and the direction you wanna keep walking towards. Speaker 1
Love that. If you were given ten million dollars tomorrow, doesn't have to be for your business, just personally, what would you do with it? Speaker 3
There's definitely studies that I would fund immediately in cancer research and some other ones, to prove, like, proof of concept to move forward with those projects. I would probably buy property on the beach because it's going quickly. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
And, would plan a a a reunion with my family, probably, like a party, like a vacation party. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. In your business, what is one challenge that you and your husband are facing right now? Speaker 3
Not enough time in the day. Honestly, I know it sounds so, like No. Speaker 1
It's appreciated. I get it. Speaker 3
Just we we there's so many projects we're working on from from grant writing to government projects, the viral in, you know, Australia to we just got FDA raygel cleared, and we're launching an aesthetics. And when you have vision and you believe in your product so much, it's like, I just want to help as many people as possible, and that pressure is really hard. It's hard to separate the pressure knowing people are relying. We get emails morning, noon, night from people like, please, your own my only hope to live. Or my baby was born with an open abdomen, and I heard you did a poster that one years ago, and it would heal this. And without you, my baby will die. And then there's politics that, like, I can't just legally ship it to them. Mhmm. I'll I'll go to jail, and we'll get closed down. And if it's not approved through the the political chains of the hospital Mhmm. Even if a doctor wanted to use it, they can't always use it if if it's not approved and in network. Speaker 1
I see. Yeah. That that was I was curious about that. It's yeah. I mean, it's that's what I thought, but I wasn't positive. If somebody just on the street wants to use your product, they can't just contact you and order your product. Correct? Speaker 3
No. They would need to get, their doctor to, like, email us that it was okay, and then we could ship it to the doctor or the patient, but they would need an order. And then the other thing, reimbursement. Oh, if you if you ask me the one thing about health care right now, I just wanna like, I could put my fist through a wall because you get FDA approval, which it that's one path you have to take. But to get reimbursement, that's through CMS, and CMS does not care what the FDA says. So you would think they would be all bundled in one. Like, you get a product the government says it's good enough to sell. It's good enough to help people. We're approving it safety wise. But then you have CMS saying, even though it's so safe, you did all this clinical testing, and they're saying it can be used, it doesn't mean we're gonna pay for it. So that's and then you have to pay for a whole another round of tests and years and years of testing just to get it reimbursed. So, you know, it goes back to me now being very educated and knowing there are wonderful products out there that could be available to to help people that are against or not accepted in conventional medicine because they may not be reimbursed yet. Speaker 1
Got it. Yeah. That's a that's a lot of bureaucracy and a lot of red tape. That's very unfortunate. I worked for the federal government for fourteen years, so I'm I'm familiar with, the many agencies not agreeing on things Speaker 3
Right. Speaker 1
Unfortunately. Alright. What is a book or two that you could recommend for our listeners? Speaker 3
Well, the only time I turn on a book, which I don't read, is to go to bed, and I set my alarm for ten five, ten minutes. But I'm really into anything. If I'm not reading journals and scientific literature about regenerative medicine, I will be listening to things that usually, like, enhance health. So the cancer revolution by, doctor Keneally, I'm obsessed with. Whether you have cancer or not, it's interesting because it talks about ways to treat and heal patients thinking outside the norm. I love doctor Jack Crews. He's a neurosurgeon and, again, is, like, anti conventional medicine. And he talks about light and how important, you know, we're as patients trained to be afraid of the sunlight. But, truthfully Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
If we act like elephants, he says, and are we awake in the morning upon sunrise and sunset, those rays actually help our skin know how to protect us better against Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
The sunlight. So I'm obsessed with everything about Jack Rose. It's k r u s e. Maria Menounos podcast. I'm the biggest Maria Menounos fan. She preaches be the CEO of your own health. She was, a TV interview. I think she was on, like, entertainment, tonight, and she's just a force to be reckoned with because she's so pure and authentic. But she sheds lights on ways that she's had to treat herself from cancer and tumors and had to take her own health into her own hands as someone that was born with type one diabetes to do better in the world and to help inspire other patients to know it's going to be okay, but let's share the information we're learning. So I love her podcast. Speaker 1
That's awesome. Yeah. And then on the diabetes thing, even type one, it's, people are learning now that it's reversible. Right? I mean, it and they're they're not everything that we thought was, you know, a lifelong curse has to be that way. And then secondly, on the on the light thing, I know Andrew Huberman talks about that a lot as far as just, you know you know, even for optimizing sleep that night, getting up in the morning and and having that first light in your eyes can really help set that circadian rhythm, which helps you better get a better sleep that night and then just helps you be your best self, right, to show up for other people, be your the best entrepreneur you can. Speaker 3
Actually learned the light story from doctor Jack Cruz on his Speaker 1
Is that right? Speaker 3
On his podcast. Yes. So definitely check that out. Speaker 1
Got it. Awesome. Speaker 3
I think it's like a three segment series, but it was fabulous. I listened I mean, it's deep. It's some a lot of it's over my head, and I'm used to science talk all the time. But it's fascinating because we're trained to be afraid of the sun. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
Exactly. Most people that develop cancer, like skin cancer, have low levels of vitamin d. So what does that tell you? We clearly need the sun. Speaker 1
Sure. Right. Absolutely. Awesome. What is, one question that I have not asked you that you wish I had? Speaker 3
No. You've you've done a great job. Speaker 1
We've covered a lot. A lot of ground. Speaker 3
I don't know. You're stumping me here. I don't I think you Awesome. You've asked me. Really good stuff. Speaker 1
Alright. Danielle Feddy, where can our listeners find you online? Speaker 3
Well, you can look up Danielle Feddy on LinkedIn. And full disclosure, I I laughed because for so many years, I was in hiding because I felt guilty not being able to help patients. But now I'm doing more talking about, like, entrepreneurship and how to listen to your emotions to guide you through owning a business. And on the aesthetic side, it's a lot easier to talk about because it's a cash business. So I'm not as handcuffed, not being able to help people in the hospital. So now I'm coming out of a closet. So you can find me on Instagram, Danielle Fetti. Fettech is f e t t e c h dot com. And then if you go to our FETTEc page, you can find all our other companies. Speaker 1
Awesome. And FETTE is f e t t e for the listeners. Well, that that the fact that you're you you're out and about you're out now must mean that you're actually living in in your purpose and you're you're, you know, you're there there's a reason you're not hiding anymore. Right? Because you're aligned with your mission and your purpose and serving others, which has to just feel so good. Even if you're even if you're super busy and tired some days and dealing with all the challenges that come along with entrepreneurship, it definitely, from my perspective, seems like you and your husband are absolutely out there serving people and just living living out your purpose. So kudos to you. Speaker 3
Thank you. Speaker 1
And thank you, Danielle, for spending your time with us. This has been great. So really appreciate it. Speaker 3
I appreciate this conversation. It was fun. Thanks. Speaker 1
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Thank you for joining us on From Adversity to Abundance. We hope today's episode has equipped you with valuable insights and practical advice to elevate your real estate journey. For more inspiring stories and resources, visit us at w w w dot adversity to abundance dot com. If this episode has inspired you, please share it with a friend who could also benefit from our conversation. Together, let's turn adversity into abundance. Until next time, keep building your mental fitness and your real estate empire. Speaker 1
Hey, everyone. This is Jamie Bateman. Real quickly, I wanted to share with you something, that's been pivotal in the growth and success of my businesses, and that is my partnership with Haven Financial Services. I've been working with Haven for over a year now. Christine Valdez was on episode seventy of this podcast. So go check that out if you wanna hear her story. It was a fantastic personal story for sure. But Haven has been awesome. They provide me with monthly reports that are super clear and discernible, and it that provides me with clarity and focus so that I can do what I do best, which is running my businesses, not preparing financial reports. Again, if you're in the market for a top notch financial service company, or if you just wanna check one out, go to w w w dot jamie bateman slash haven and check out Haven Financial Services. Again, that's jamie bateman slash haven. Can't recommend them enough. Christine and her team have been fantastic. So I definitely recommend you check out Haven Financial Services at w w w dot jamie bateman forward slash haven. Let's get back to the show. 
