From Homelessness to Million-Dollar Mentorship: Dr. Robb Kelly's Neuro-Coaching Revolution
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Hey there! Are you struggling to stay productive while working from home? Have you been feeling isolated and lacking energy? You've probably been told to just push through it, but let's face it - that hasn't worked out too well, has it? The pain of feeling lonely and unproductive is real, but what if I told you there's a way to transform your mindset and improve your mental wellness? Let's dive into how overcoming childhood trauma and adopting a neuroscience-based approach can lead to a whole new level of mental and emotional abundance. Get ready to unleash your full potential!
My special guest is Dr. Robb Kelly
Dr. Robb Kelly, a distinguished expert in addiction and neuroscience holding two PhDs, is a notable guest on the podcast. With a compelling personal story of battling severe alcohol addiction and homelessness, Robb offers valuable perspectives on overcoming adversity. His impressive track record, boasting a 97% success rate in aiding individuals, underscores his expertise and practical approach to recovery. Moreover, his recent focus on collaborating with real estate professionals, entrepreneurs, and investors reflects his commitment to extending support across diverse sectors. Notably, his background as a renowned musician, having performed alongside iconic figures like Queen, David Bowie, and Elton John, adds an intriguing dimension to his expertise, making him an exceptional guest for this episode.
Love others, then you love yourself. By loving yourself, you can be the best person that's possible. Why settle for 45% when you can get to 100% and enjoy life? - Dr. Robb Kelly
Nobody gives a shit. We think they do, but they don't. So be bold. Dance where you can, wear stupid slippers, whatever you got to do. - Dr. Robb Kelly
In this episode, you will be able to:
- Uncover the keys to overcoming adversity and achieving abundance through mindset transformation.
- Learn about the impact of childhood trauma on mental health and discover ways to heal and thrive.
- Experience a journey of personal growth and transformation through recovery from childhood trauma.
- Understand the link between neuroscience and mental wellness for a deeper insight into overcoming trauma.
- Gain entrepreneurial insights on resilience and mindset to apply them in your personal and professional life.
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For any of you out there struggling with addiction or mental health challenges, this episode is for you. Doctor. Rob Kelly joins us. He's an addiction expert. A neuroscience expert. He's got two PhDs and, has learned a lot from his own personal situation He had serious alcohol addiction for decades ended up homeless, just a wild, wild personal story of recovery, and actually he reveals something toward the end of the episode that he apparently has only recently started talking about, which crosses into the spiritual world. So you're gonna wanna stick around for that. What I love is the energy and the practical nature of how he helps people recover from addiction and mental health challenges. And He's recently started working more with realtors and real estate professionals and investors and entrepreneurs and and this he just I feel like I we could have done five to ten episodes. There's so much to unpack here. He says he has a ninety seven percent success rate, so clearly focused on results and not just talk and and, theory. Rob is also a renowned musician, and he's played, guitar, bass guitar at Abby Studio with queen David Bowie and Elton John, definitely runs in some some cool circles and some powerful and, successful circles different celebrities, etcetera. But just his passion for helping people comes through in this episode for sure, you're not gonna wanna miss this one. Speaker 1
Welcome to the from adversity to abundance podcast. Are you an entrepreneur or aspiring on entrepreneur, then this show is for you. Each week, we bring you impactful stories of people who have overcome painful human adversity to create a life of abundance. You are not alone in your struggle. Join us, and you will experience the power of true stories and gain tactical knowledge from founders who have turned poverty into prosperity and weakness into wealth. This podcast will encourage you through your relationship, and financial challenges so you could become the hero in your quest for freedom. Take ownership of the life you are destined to live. Turn your adversity into abundance. Speaker 0
Welcome everybody to another episode of the from adversity to abundance podcast. I am your host, Jamie bateman, and I'm thrilled today to have with us doctor Rob Kelly Rob is a neuroscience expert and works works a lot with real estate investors, real estate agents, entrepreneurs, and we're gonna this is this is gonna be awesome. This is gonna be a lot of fun. Doctor. Rob Kelly, how are you doing today, sir? Speaker 2
You're amazing, Jamie. Thank you for having me. Hey, guys. Great to see you. Hang on to your seats guys. This is gonna be awesome. Speaker 0
I love it. Yeah. Some guests get have to get me more fired up, and this is that's that's what's happening now. So this is this is gonna be fantastic. So for the listener who may be unfamiliar with you, are you up to today? What are you who are you working with and what are you up to today? Speaker 2
Well, I I own the rough category, I met other businesses, but that's mainly what it is. It's all about neuroscience and, reprogramming brains pertaining to success. We used to be an addiction company because I suffer from addiction, but ninety five percent of our work now is purely changing mindsets pertaining to business. I mean, just broke into the real estate business because we found so many people within, like, a year or two years, like, if there's enough seventy nine percent or something leave the industry, So we're all about anybody can change to make sure you're successful. Whatever that means, it doesn't mean I'm really easy to a million dollars when this is right believe or not, but you might be one of the best father or best husband, you know. Mhmm. Success to use what is what we, concentrate on. Speaker 0
Sure. That's awesome. So before we jump into your your backstory, Rob, what, I guess, you know, neuroscience versus you know, mental health, mental fitness. Can you frame the put us give us a little bit of context? What's the difference and how do those kind of play together? Speaker 2
Well, mine and you've heard mind over matter. The brain, runs from the mind, you know, so whatever we make our mind and to do with the right training and the problem we can do. Mental health. We deal with mental health. It's more about depression and addiction by polar stuff like that. But weekly, There are few there are a few things you can do, to improve anything that you're separating from. Unless you have a brain, a brain damage or something like that, but most people when it comes to the both of those suffering from childhood trauma, and what we do here, suffering from childhood trauma affects us here So it's all about cleariness of it going forward. I mean, anybody can do anybody can succeed. And the first thing people said to me Jamie years ago is account be present in the United States when I say you can do anything. So forget your political views for a second rather business around the country. Don't dare tell me that you can't change because it's a hundred percent possible and stay there. Speaker 0
Mhmm. Love that. Awesome. Alright. Just think this is such a valuable topic and important topic right now for for numerous reasons. But our our listeners are primarily entrepreneurs and I shouldn't say but and our listeners are primarily entrepreneurs or budding entrepreneurs and, you know, with everyone working many people working from home these days, I think, we're we're it's easy to get sucked into the loneliness and and you know, some some negative mental habits. So I'm thrilled to get get into this. So let's jump back though. Rob, what's, where do you wanna what's our launching point here with your backstory? Where do we wanna start? Speaker 2
Well, when when you look at self sabotage, which hundred percent of people suffer from and childhood trauma, a hundred percent of people suffer from. I took my first drinker. I'll call the age of nine on stage, with my single family, my aunt and uncle. So the seller's sabotage, he came there. You know, I was always told that I can't do things. I was always told I was not good enough. The only thing I had in my life was music. That's that's all I had. So when I put a guitar on my up again confident take it away. I didn't because it's always told that you can't do. You can't go to college, Rob. You're not as clever as you probably. You're too stupid to do that. I was told that all my life. And what happens is throughout my life, you can see the self sabotage with alcohol and drugs and behavior. You know, behavior and mindset are just as damaging as any addiction in the world because it ends me not believing me. And that internal voice throughout my life was saying, well, they must be right. You know, my parents told me they must be right. My friends tell me they must be right. So as we go through the journey, I finally self sabotaged in Arts and lose my children, houses, car, kids, evidently, and became homeless. And I knew one of the bottomless fourteen months on the streets that, if I ever cut off, because you look at the statistics where I come from, I'm ninety eight percent of people that end up really homeless like me dying on the streets. So I was one of two percent that cut off and I did. I have two PSDs, one in behavioral science, a bunch of all of it pertaining to entrepreneurs and and success is I'm gonna spend the rest of my life reprogramming, people because I knew that without suffering from nobody that any idea. And then while we sup with Molly studied, the brain and the mind, central nervous system, what life's really about. And how real you can get successful, it's not a dream. It's not something that you think something Speaker 0
that It's practical. Exactly. Yeah. You can actually take action with it and and actually there's not some woo woo, like, you know, topic we talk about for other people. It's something we can implement. Sounds like right away. So so get so first drink at age nine on the stage, what give us some more context of what your life was like at that time and and why you took a a drink at age nine. Speaker 2
Well, I didn't know that, but I know now those alcohol is I'm gonna in the family. You can trace it back through generations. There's a difference between heavy drinking, abusing alcohol and the alcoholic. We have different minds three parts of the brain different from any. So I started playing guitar around four or five because my uncle was a guitar player and he lived with us. So I always knew I wanted to be a professional musician from the age of eight or nine. So first stage of nine, it was I was at school. I was doing okay. Wasn't doing amazing. But in music, obviously, these studies, I excelled, you know, a plus every single time because I loved it. The the only thing I would say, Michael Jackson reminds me of this, is during my week, I didn't get a normal lifestyle because we're rehearsing songs for the weekend. We had to be at least three new songs. So I missed out on Black Samoth, and exactly in all Bendays, because I was on the free songs that we had to play for the weekend. So part of my child was stolen, you know, I never really thought to to do things to be successful. So I was the richest kid in our school. I know that. Okay. I was studying piano music all of the time. Didn't really make any good friends and social behavior wasn't perfect. That's that's how it was run down each. Speaker 0
So you had you said you're the richest kid in in in the school, you said. Right? And so it wasn't a financial financial struggle that you were dealing with. It it sounds like you didn't have the best support from a family perspective and and, you didn't have positive, you know, dialogue or or words being spoken into your life. And so interesting. So so I I don't mean to, you know, drill in too far in the relationship side, but you so your parents and your your family members all spoke poorly of of your possibilities of success and and, what what was that like? Speaker 2
Well, not only that, but they never validated or approved me. Whenever I was the party builder, when I was fifteen, sixteen, weren't a few common sessions that every time I bring this huge trophy, all my my doctor was just, oh, okay. Mhmm. And I'm like, oh, good job, but nothing else. Mhmm. Sure. And everybody needs a validation and approval from from caregivers. Otherwise, you're welcome. So that's the kind of problem. Now we all ask food in the house, the house for spotless, it was paycheck to paycheck just about with us. So, my mind meant what I learned of that being from the Messerment in Libya. Hey, he was I would probably go on to live paycheck to paycheck Mhmm. To the loan behavior, but I decided at one point that that was not gonna be the change. So I was gonna do stuff and nobody else could do, and as quick as I could. Speaker 0
Okay. So you did struggle from financial challenges at home. Got it. Speaker 2
I was I used to get paid. I don't back in the five pound every night. So I, you know, ten to a forty forty pounder a month, but my dad probably earning one hundred and twenty pounds a month. So I it was my money. I was the richest school, but my Yeah. Speaker 0
I see. I see. I got it. Got it. Understood. Alright. So music was your you're calling at that point and you were, and, and was your, I guess, emotional and mental escape maybe? Is that is that fair to say? Okay. Alright. So when you were really good at at music, really good at guitar, you wanted to be a professional musician. And so first drink at age nine because that was kind of the world that you were you were living in and and and alcohol then became an escape for you. Is that is that that. What occurred? Speaker 2
When we could get my first beer. We'd gone on stage for the first thirty minutes. We did two thirty minutes spots. I come up, I was so nervous the crime was so big. We need to hear take these take these and drink it real quick, which I did right now. I'm gonna change my whole one. Confidence about everything. So I use that as a crux for the rest twenty five years. Speaker 0
Okay. So and, obviously, there's gonna be a ton of ups and downs we're not gonna be able to really drill into, but next twenty five years, walk us through you know, from from age nine, for twenty five years, walk us through some of the ups and downs and chronologically how did your how did things play out for you? Speaker 2
Well, when I when when I was playing, like, next week to high school, I did okay again in high school, again, using and then just getting bands and and stuff like that. And I I took a body building. I used to, you know, work the doors or play in the bands at the weekend. During the week. And it became just a life habit of mine to do that. When I was about fifteen sixteen, a friend of mine, his father was a freemason, and he's very secretive over in England, not like it is. They was very organized. They were all old, the the logic been going for many years. And eventually, at the end, no other choice but to ask me. So I was about now I was about sixteen, maybe seventeen. So to become a freemason, you have to go through a ritual, which hired to do to get me in the laws to play the organ. So that was my first entrance into who you know, not what you know. Mhmm. From that and talks and likability, I I got placed at Oxford University. Through the back door. So I end up at a prestigious school not knowing how to act on end, the imposter syndrome, something. And he's kind of been live feeling that that I'm kind of the first time, Jenny, we sat down for lunch, college. There were five forks on the left hand, five forks on the right hand. I was like, are we gonna have five males? Or what? How can we tell? So what got to learn at an early age? Was to look at other people and copy what they do. And I say exactly what I did throughout my life because today I have an amazing life mixing with all these millionaires, if not billionaires. But it all comes from learning, you know. Happy lot of people so you know how to do it. Speaker 0
Yeah. Alright. So you did okay in high school and then you got had some some good connections to get you into oxford. Right? And then just so now all of a sudden you're in with all these people who maybe you're thinking they they earned it more than you did. Right? It's And and so, okay. So what's your mindset at Oxford? What give us some more context about Oxford. Speaker 2
Well, I'd love to get you the in-depth kind of, but most of it, well, all the time that I was drunk everyday. But that's the reality of it. You know, I couldn't stand the pressure of. I would just now into drinking every day. So which wasn't a problem, obviously. So, there was a few people paid off to do a few things. I don't I don't mind sharing that. Yeah. Speaker 0
Yeah. What what what what does that mean? What what does that mean? Speaker 2
I pay people or the school kids because I was playing in the band. I had lots of money. I paid other case to take tests to do pain. Speaker 0
Got it. Speaker 2
Like that. You know, I would say I'll be until I don't know what get on my my eleven twelve o'clock. Take a bunch of other opportunities and stay up till five. And then, yeah, it was just a it was a crazy time. It was a really big spotty. The whole the whole drinking time for me towards the end was just foggy, but I knew that you know, the first contact to have and these people were were affluent. And that's what I knew I needed to be. I don't need to be with, you know, the people I grew up with, and and and I all that because I wanted this I wanted this lifetime that I'm seeing around with, you know, parents are picking kids up in rolls royces and dentleys. And I'm like, I want some of that lifestyle. Mhmm. Sure. Speaker 0
Yeah. Okay. So somehow you end up homeless. Walk us up, to that point. Speaker 2
So nothing more than to to colleagues after, you know, meeting a girl, you know, getting married, buying our first house, having the first child, which I swore in a bible, I'd never drink again after the first child. I was there at birth. Two hours later, I'm drunk. Still we think had a problem. Second child came along. Same thing with two bibles now, as I'm being serious, you know, worth three hours of my life because I was drunk in three hours. So that was the deal. A lot of bad things happen in our house. I never sat in my wife three tank all night because she won't let me finish my bottle with vodka. That's the one I can tell you there's lots of other things that happen in a dysfunctional house. You know, that went on, but eventually, you know, she left with the children and, you know, over a two or three, four months, everything was gone. You know, it was a blur. But I'm I'll wake up on the streets one one day and think, Wendy or go along. And everything is going to be friends, family, brothers, sisters, every time I call and they put the phone down, if I turned up to the house, they call the police. So I was abandoned on the streets. Absolutely abandoned And I tried to kill myself seven times, and on two occasions it worked, I was dead. And, they brought me back to life on a smelly rainy old Manchester road twice. And I hated them men for that, Jamie, because I knew then I was done. I tried jumping on buildings. I tried tying myself to a railway track. I tried overdone. It was just It's like a concur myself. I could try all these things. Wow. Niggling in the back, Jamie, niggling draw his poverty, shame, homelessness, begging. Oh, just horrible. I knew that one day I'd be where I am today. Speaker 0
So you say you were legally dead twice. Walk us pick one of those two times, and and I'm sure you like you said, it's all blurred. It's hard to remember, but give us give us some context how if you don't mind touching on that a little bit. Speaker 2
I mean, I took I took a lot of pills, and I drank myself almost to death. You know, drinking pot handwood bottles of vodka, with pills and then a collapsed on the side where I got nobody to find me. But before I went unconscious, there was particles there and you came a lot, you're gonna be okay. And by then, it had too many drugs and too much alcohol. Alcohol poisoning and it kept children on the heart start. Right. And there were people who'd already call the ambulance, and they were there within seconds, because the city center. And, yeah, they they brought me back, you know, doing the, impressions. And I remember waking up. Putting us loads of stuff like that. I remember waking up. I mean, what I thought was heaven because there was three people around with white uniforms on. With white hat so I unify. I thought I was dead. I was so relieved. I was like, it was a hospital and the nurses brought the bikes back in the day with the hat. When I found out with the hospital, I hadn't died, I went into a depressive state straight away. Speaker 0
Wow. What what age was this? Speaker 2
Oh, I don't know. Twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, around that round. Got it. Speaker 0
Sure. Early twenties. Okay. So What was was that rock bottom for you? What was rock bottom? Speaker 2
Well, two rock bottom's gonna need to know how authorities took their children off me. Because I'd been drunk for two days. They were in my care, and I I was out drinking back to their house, back to the liquor store, and the children have been fed for for two days. I'll change diaper and the police kicked the door down as they pull my one and three year old out my three year old COVID mom's house, like, down the path, and she said three things to me. Daddy, daddy, daddy, please don't go. Daddy, daddy, daddy, please get better. And then when he got to the gate and opened the gates, you turn around one more time and says daddy, daddy, please stop drinking. And I couldn't do it. So couple of months, if not weeks later, I was homeless. But the other one was one night, it was pouring down my brain, two or three o'clock in the morning, it dropped down to my hands and knees, And I just looked up to the sky and the rain, and I said, if there's a gut up there, I can't do this on my own anymore, maybe thirty seconds later, it felt like guywater on the corner. This is Lesboson from bible study, took a shortcut for the first time ever and came upon the that is where my whole life changed. Because he took me back to his house, you know, and and, and used to be bathed in colds and Yeah. From from then on, I I really never looked back, and his name was Derek. I also met a guy called John who took me through the program, philosophy, bible, all that stuff, and that's covered from from that disease. Speaker 0
Okay. So your your family and relatives had all abandoned you or or had decided they couldn't they had to just create separation and but but stranger came to your rescue. Is that is that right? Speaker 2
Apparently, my mom died earlier with cancer, but worried about me. She told me, like, years on that, she prayed that the police would knock on the door and tell them I away so she could start worrying about me. Because I caused me. Yeah. Going around me. I caused me. I never mind. Speaker 0
Yeah. This is a lot of heavy stuff, and I don't mean to just gloss over this. I appreciate you you sharing being being open with us. So someone brings you into his home, walk us through the the next year or two, what did that look like? Speaker 2
For the next day, I I would only share about eighteen months ago, and I kept it to myself for twenty something years. He went back to his house and he said, listen, you could stay at probably longer. You want but you have to come to these AA meetings, and I'm I'll call it human recovery. Well, I hated their needs, but I went. Why when I went, I looked around, people started sharing this by that. And this guy said, my name is John and Marie Cove alcoholic. I was like, what? Why do you think you're saying that you can't be able to recover from this? So after the meeting, I went over to him, would you be my sponsor we said no, but I'll be your spiritual adviser for a period of twelve weeks. Every single Wednesday, I walk around to his house and place an hour away. Used to walk there, spend seven till eight PM within. I had to go there, dead on seven, loop, dead on eight and walk back to the house. I did that for twelve weeks, Jamie. So he told me life will change. Or when the next day after his my final day, I got part time job, which was crazy, led to a full time job. So I bought him a little Teddy bear hard from the gas station, and I walked back to his apartment. When I got back to the apartment, it was it looked like there was nobody there. I was knocking on the door real hard and then right hand neighbor command. He says, can I help you? And he said, yeah, can you tell me where John's new to? Just said, John. There's been no one there for three months that I've lived here. Oh, that closed the door, obviously. She's obviously. So I knocked on the other door, and this big guy came to the door. What do you want? Where's John, you know, too? Where's he real pating to? He said John, who? I said, you're an agent, John. And he said, I don't know why you're playing at that. That house is derral, about apartments, derral, and if I talk about there's no floor in there. You step and you drop down. It obviously is stupid. You've got the wrong address. So then I went back to the meeting, then I and the young man said, oh, you're recognizing it because he only went there once. Yeah. I said, well, does John still coming in? And he said John who? I said John, that I have opened in the company machine. We're talking about going sponsoring me and stuff. And he said, well, we were laughing because we thought you was Pam. God, because you were opening the company machine, speaking to yourself. We never found out that. And I said, when I got wealthy, I I set a detective agency back in England, I mean, and they could never trace it. But what he told me is why I'm where I am today. So who do Speaker 0
you believe? Who who was John? What what, what do you believe that was? Speaker 2
Okay. So, first of all, I never told anybody that you didn't think about it. Kind of scared a little bit, and then it it's some kind of spiritual intervention I'll be buying because renamed you on. Because many times after that, married calls every couple of months happen to me. Like, you know, doctor Albert told me once, with pain meds because I had to back into it. Somebody found me. I was just there's loads of stuff that happened. And continues to happen to me. Mhmm. So people started getting well and people started to succeed and, you know, the the medical concern to scown on me and, you know, said it was this, you know, whole world that had this magical mystery thing that biometrically. Speaker 0
You know Yes. And you didn't share I'm sorry. So you didn't share the, the story about John, for twenty years, you said. Right? Speaker 2
Yeah. Correct. Because you Speaker 0
you were worried about being viewed as as a customer. I Speaker 2
know what he's gonna Speaker 0
What so what do you say to someone who says, well, that that was, you know, this guy was on drugs and was was maybe having a psychotic episode. Speaker 2
Just because the time I spent with Derek and his house, you know, I spent a long time and I ended up working with him at the factory of sweeping floors, So and the things that he said would come true that was kind of mind blowing. He said god won't won't keep you here, but we'll send you to a land far away, and he quoted a Bible verse. I'm a Bible guy. And all little things came true. So I knew it was really And I got I got sober when I when I, left his house after the last day of twelve weeks, and I'd like to get better and better. But I'm still hearing some of the stuff he tells me today. Like, a second voice telling me I'm guiding me or, you know, you need to do this, you need to do that. And, you've seen that. Speaker 0
Angel and Angel on your shoulder kinda thing. Right? Speaker 2
I think so. I don't know. I don't think so. I know, you know, it's the first time I've said it. I know that's exactly what it is and I, you know, I don't really care what people say, but, you know, that Speaker 0
Yeah. No. I I I it's a I mean, I personally, I do it's actually just speaking about this a couple days ago that I do think, You know, our certainly in the US and just the western culture, we we tend to minimize the spiritual, world, you know, in general, So I don't think it's crazy to acknowledge that there is a spiritual world and and, you know, and that that world can cross over into into our world. So okay. So bring us up to date. So the last, say, five or ten years of of your life, what did that look like? Speaker 2
I met my met my wife, ten years ago in Dallas, Texas because I came over here for two weeks, just like John told me I worked I've stayed and been here for about eighteen, nineteen years now. I met my girlfriend. I had come out the industry. I was driving a truck happier than if they met my, my girlfriend. And, we got a phone call one day from a treatment center, and he called me Doctor. Robin phoned. I'm like, wow, not adapt to ages. So that phone call changed again. The my wife have, built, you know, five businesses around us, being a happy and successful And the key is, here's the key. So when you have that spiritual awakening, because there is a spiritual side of this, you know, believe me. And you have that rewiring of the brain that I've been changing. And that's, again, from a training practicing, and research and test and trials and those couple like that, you know, we did this in a scientific lab. So, I we want to do exactly that. Now we It's not about alcohol and drugs today because the mindset is all the same. You know, the way I have distorted, thinking. So most alcoholics, not alcoholics are born drug addicts are made. Most alcoholics one get sober or geniuses. They really are because of the mind and the the way the platforms work. So the hypothalamus base or ganglia, and the, amygdala are different. And all alcoholics to any other other addiction you will. Speaker 0
And now are you are you saying that's why you were drawn to alcoholism? Are you because you were born that way, or you're saying because of the alcoholism, you now became a a genius. Speaker 2
Well, what we've found is when we when we've been working with, you know, work with over eight thousand people now. But it's back working. I'll call it when they've got silver. They are mental minds, you know, because they're open. We struggle with disease and the same sort of certain degree with any other addiction. We struggle with this disease. And most of our newer pathways in the head of South Subatante. So we can't reject the basil ganglia as our reposition strength of confirmed part of the brain like a pilot needs ten thousand hours in the air to minimize, like, face and what alcoholics and I have to do is turn up to get sober twenty up to you get the kids bagged, I don't have a bag, get the job bag, and about ten to be self satisfied. That is engraved from birth. That is the service habitat. Add childhood trauma to that and the access to alcohol, and I was on I never stood a chance. I was on a ticket. But once you get cleaner sober, every person I've worked with going on is amazing. And Speaker 0
you think it's large in large part also due to that that just that recovery process, the work you put in during the recovery and the the growth in that time period. Speaker 2
Yeah. All our colleagues and addicts or any other addiction get two lives in one lifetime. You get the first communist club. We were blessed enough to get sober clean, come up gambling sex, whatever it is. We have this second line. I have a care for ATG. I signed an office daily in Dallas, some ten years ago for a million dollars. Over a period of time. I did not have a million dollars, Jamie. I probably had about eight grand in the bank, but I signed this deal. And my friend said, how do you sleep at night? And my attitude is always what the hell can they do to me that I have already done to myself? No. We take the we take the entrepreneur part. We we build empires. We my guys don't build businesses. You get a a business card and a website to go. No. Build empires. Stop rates on your imagination because it was always meant to be. Speaker 0
Sounds like a pretty pretty passionate about the self limiting beliefs. Speaker 2
Oh, from learned behavior. All from learned behavior and investment from Caggins. It all comes from that. If that's a gas fixer, he'll probably be a gas fixer. If that's successful, you'll probably be successful, but you can break that chain. You really kind of of getting away. I call it my old friends were like a suspect. They kept trying to bring me back, but I was gone. I knew that I'd I even when I was sick on the street, I knew there was a better life, and I knew that experience I was going through was gonna become my greatest asset going forward. It's like where it was and look. Well, I can't do it. I'm forty two years old. No. From there to that. Well, what about recently? Well, recently, I've just lost a hundred and fifty five pounds in the last eighteen months. Again, mindset, neuroscience, you can do anything that you put your money to. Speaker 0
Wow. Well, that's what this, the show is all about from adversity to abundance and turning those struggles into into success stories and and and strength. Two PhDs, when did you get those? Speaker 2
Got my first one, I would say Oxford, psychology. And then about I wanna say about eight years ago, I did an online course with another university in England, I've done some online, another online, PhD for behavioral science, because I'm wanting to do when Zoom first came out some nine or ten years ago, I wanted to be able to work on certain people around the world, but I needed to understand the science around behavior. The three thousand micro expressions on the face above. So I can tell if you're lying, if you're hiding something, if your shoulders, if you I can tell all of this on a screen, So, yeah, I'm, I'm gonna Speaker 0
So what are what are what's one or two things that I guess you've learned through your academic education, because I know you've had a lot a lot of real life education, but from the academic side from PHDs, one or two things that stand out that the world really needs to know that that's, that that is is not, among the common understanding of of neuroscience science or life? Speaker 2
Well, obviously, the psychology all about the name, how it works, sorry, the brain, and how it works, and what what's absolutely going on in the brain. The neuroscience, it was who's what shading does, the neuroscience, we have what's really going on. Like everyone thinks in the morning, like, if you're gonna have them on the brain, I mean, nope, the mind, you can program your mind as soon as you get up, gonna give you three things to do every morning, guys, before we finish and you'll feel amazing the next day or the same day. So when you look at the mind, so what happens is this mind is energy, as we all know, connects with an energy, but we can make our mind or mind over matter. The brain is matter. Once we program that mind thing in the morning, it can spread into neural pathways and different parts of the brain to make sure that you have a fantastic day and make sure that you can chase your dream and it can come real. See, most of the month are working to go, oh, do you know what? I had a bad day today? My answers, I was just saying, was it a bad day? I was at five minutes that was bad and you spread it out of the dead. Yeah. So the fascination of the mind and the brain became obsessive with me. I would still don't know about eighty percent of what's going on in there. Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2
This with this, this always happens. Always happens unless somebody gets hurt one day, well, you know something. I don't wanna do this anymore. Obviously self sabotage, but a lot of us who've been childbed. We will stop there. So we got a we got a thousand fleas. We stuck them in a jar, the experiment in a lab, the punch dolls after a day or two, we took the cap off. Now the fleet can jump three or four foot, not one fleet jump higher than where the cap was. Okay? So the topic learned behavior. We thought that was interesting, but what we found was real interesting is the babies they have in that jar still would jump higher than the we never see the lid. So we look at whenever we look at human behavior around that, It's like only gonna go as far as our parents teach us to go. Really. We should be. Most people walking down forty five if fifty percent of their capabilities in your investments. So that's Speaker 0
not even that's learned behavior, but it's not self limiting. In that case, it's it's it's almost parent limiting. Speaker 2
Yeah. You know, I'm telling you, we can see it from now till next week constantly twenty still won't cover and convince you if you can help. Speaker 0
Well, no. It's, I feel like we could have ten episodes and barely scratch the surface So I've shared a little bit of this on previous episodes recently, but, and I won't go into too much detail, but we've dealt with, particularly with my son of recently in the last twelve to eighteen months, some very serious mental health challenges. And, so I've I've personally been a lot more interested in in mental fitness, mental health, and and, the intersection between physical health and spiritual health and mental health and all these things. I I think one of the things that's surfaced for me, with my understanding of all this is, well, first off, the the there's a huge gap between, in our in the US, in our medical system with regard to mental health, neurology, and sort of the physical side and the mental side. So there's a book called Brain, Brain Energy that he argues. I think his name is, Doctor. Chris palmer, if I get it right, but he argues that everything is, everything comes back to the mitochondria. And so And so whether that whether we're talking about diabetes or whether we're talking about bipolar disorder that there's there's a connection you know, there, and that he his his thing is he's trying to change the system. He's trying to He's not that he's not trying to help a particular individual in their situation, but he's trying to take a he's trying to, you know, change the entire system and how we how we look at this. So I'll stop rambling and let you chime in, but what would you say to to, you know, our approach as a as a western society in addressing, I guess, mental health and and brain issues where the what's the biggest need with regard to our approach as a as a system. Oxy. Oxy. Speaker 2
So the presence of oxygen equals a lack of disease. Let me perhaps dental health. We only breathe twenty five percent of our lung capacity there for our body does not get the hundred percent oxygen as needed. So every illness, every disease grows in a hypoxic area of the body. That's number one. Okay. The more you believe the people around you, and it changes it changes cells. It changes the, the the biochemistry in the brain. I mean, it's it's it's a mirroring part of the brain that takes down. Like monkey sleep monkey do, you know, and and you can use your whole body. So let's say they had three hundred ish narrow pathways by every day? Why are you replacing them three hundred? And you price them with the same old stuff, the mundane stuff around people that don't wanna use see, or are you replacing them with people around you that want more than them for you, they want something for you, not from you than people that believe in you more than I believe in myself, it changes insight. It changes the chemistry. You know, it changes the pathways, the hypothalamus based organically, criminal cortex, the amygdala, it changes from the people that are surrounding. That's why it's really important. About your inner circle. If you've got one of three people, it's too many too many. No? Okay. People ninety nine people could say you're amazing one person say you know. All this is changing you on a daily basis. Now, if you don't think we can answer this, and let's tell me how to build a barrier with people, Find somebody with sneakers. I don't know what's the best. Nice sneakers, man. For nice sneakers, man. Pretty much. Okay. Nice sneakers, man. Hey, oh, thank you, man. Watch him when he walks away. He's gonna look down at his feet at least two or three times. Now he's in a great mood that goes on to the wife because he's in a great So this has this on generations to generations right now with people and mainland people. That changes the changes our chemistry dopamine's released in our brains straightaway. We love dopamine and all the other, you know, the upstairs and serotonin dolphins. Now all four chemicals are needed to change. All four chemicals are needed to be happy every day. You can't complain about following this. The way you'll have to remember is dopamine and serotonin created in the woods. Not the brain. In the slots. Okay. Yeah. We're supposed to eat. We eat crap. We make hampers. We do all this stuff. You go to the you go to the store now and you pull something up the jail, look at the young group. Yeah. You go out to England, McDonald's fries. They're not great for you. English, free ingredients, oil, salt, etcetera. You get a same fries overhead from McDonald's as seventeen ingredients. Speaker 0
Yeah. We have very, very ultra processed. Our diet is is pretty poor in the US. So talk to the entrepreneur as we as we start to, you know, in a minute here. I've got some rapid fire questions, and and then we'll talk more about really what you're up to today with your your businesses. But before we get there, talk to the entrepreneur out there who works from home, and they are They might be busy, but they're isolated and lonely and feeling, you know, I'm not even saying depressed. Just maybe overweight, maybe lethargic, maybe they they just how do they how do they break through? You you talk about most people are operating at forty five, fifty percent of their capacity. What are some practical tips? I know you mentioned three things you were gonna mention. What's a practical tip or two that the entrepreneur at home who doesn't doesn't get out much? What can they do today to get to that next level? Speaker 2
So guys, I've been there. It's lonely. Installation kills people or to us since I've been saying, so we need the, obviously, the, the chemicals in the brain so that we can we can communicate with other people. You know, I have five thousand friends. Now you're plugged into the wall on Facebook. That's all you are. These are the I've worked in my eight thousand patients where that all works. If you find yourself working from home and getting mundane, shower dress for the office, will suit and tie whatever it is working to in your office upstairs, you work for a matter of hours, and then you leave. Stop doing a thousand things at once and and not being successful at the moment. Right? Five things down every day that you're gonna complete. Now you may do fifty, but these five, you must complete. And don't do anything stupid like win a lot of treatment. Just start with breakfast lunch, call Johnny, Canada, whatever stop then five, if you continue, then five every day, your brain is in the subconscious brain, that's why the pre cortex asks for problems because the conscious brain is working, guys, if you're putting you're not clearing this up. You know, so you have to start believing that whatever you want you want. Right down on a whiteboard. The things that you wanna accomplish. And don't sell yourself short. Okay? And make sure that you call people, text people on a daily basis, and get you need to get out guys. I don't care if it's a walk in the park for twenty minutes. You need to get out of the office in the house, especially if it's single because you will not perform a hundred percent. You will not. So tomorrow morning, get up in the morning. Mhmm. The reason I know human being ever as well called mopping is good luck about you. So an enormous circadian rhythm sleep pattern between two and four of our bodies that most would die. It's also when most people die of natural causes. Mhmm. We need to replenish the oxygen. So stand up, before you do anything, guys, grab hold of the bed because you will go dizzy, and I want you to take twenty, exaggerate pressing. Speaker 0
Mhmm. Okay. Speaker 2
I found you guys. All done. Now the auction is flooded the brain Mhmm. Already. Go to the bathroom. Let's talk to the subconscious brain. Look yourself in the mirror but from sixty away. When you go close to the mirror or shave it and put your makeup on, you see all your blemishes. You walk out the door or down zoom thinking about their blemishes. Stand six feet away and all the blemishes go. Okay. So let's check-in your pathways. If you brush with right, left for a week, right for a week, left for a week, right for a week. Go out, compliment free people, or if you're at home, compliment free people by tech, go on the problem on Zoom, and then Even that you can. Once you start acting as if you are, then you become. Like, we we talked to you guys at a nine eleven cars to the big million dollar houses, because what happens, the brain is not primed for success. So when you start earning money, Don't buy that nine eleven, the mind doesn't go, oh, hang on a sec. That's a lot. What the Brian says is, oh, I recognize this place. That's where it belong. All these little tricks to do and you will flourish guys and don't ever hang around people that don't believe you can. They've got to believe more than you believe the very part of the brain and the energy will pick that up is a hundred percent guarantee. Speaker 0
Alright. So the three things that people can do in the morning is is the breath work Right? And then two is the standing six feet away from the mirror. And you mentioned Speaker 2
I love you. I love you. I love you. Ten ten Speaker 0
times. Okay. And then you mentioned brushing your teeth with different hands. And then the third thing, though, is, the compliments for other people. Right? Speaker 2
If you're working from home, be careful if you're dying locked down. It's internal and external, you know, I've dropped the panel on the floor. Stop that and stop it now. Yeah. Speaker 0
The self self talk. So that that's really interesting. And we're almost out of time here, but I I've actually been doing breath work almost every morning for the last year, fourteen months, and it's been it's been amazing. I really never thought I would do anything breath work. And it's it's just it's really sets the tone for the day. It's been fantastic. And then when you mentioned the texting or complimenting people, You know, my wife and I did some, some counseling a couple years ago, a year and a half ago. And one of the very practical things that are are therapists had us do was sending appreciations to each other. It might sound cheesy or it might sound too simple and and too, you know, I and I had some doubts in the beginning, to be honest with you. The what is this text gonna do? I mean, great. Well, it changes your mindset. Like you're talking about, it it changed it changed me more than it changed her as far as when I'm sending these appreciations to her because it's taught my brain to start looking for that. And because, you know, our our brains naturally focus on the negative. And so, those two two of those three things I can I can truly appreciate is? Now I I guess I gotta get better at the the mirror self talk. But but but we're almost out of time here. You you wanna say say chime in? Speaker 2
I just dress for each other as well at home. If you're married, you need a dress, don't walk around with a bag of shorts and then you dress every day. Speaker 0
Awesome. That's a great tip. Alright. You ready for some rapid fire questions, Rob? No. Alright. What is one thing that people misunderstand about you? Speaker 2
But I'm passionate. I have a big heart, and I give a lot of money away without people knowing they would it's unbelievable, but most people think I'm aggressive and, you know, not I'm not telling you. Speaker 0
Got it. What is we've talked a lot about your your I mean, your story is is is amazing. You've had some very real low points. What's one of your biggest failures? Speaker 2
Hi, doctors. One of them got in touch four years ago as you now worked for me in in England, but the other one, Jamie, I've not seen for almost thirty years going contact on the estimated by email. Speaker 0
Wow. It's amazing. If you could go back and give your eighteen year old self some advice, what would that be? Speaker 2
Nobody gives a shit. We think they do, but they don't say, I walk in a room like it. Oh, I'm looking at no. I'm almost like a nobody cares or people That's why you can. Why stupid slippers? What are you gonna do? Speaker 0
Yeah. I just saw a thread on Twitter or X today from, I think it's his name Mark Manson, I think. He's a the subtle art of not giving an f off that. It's so true. If you could have a coffee with any historical figure, who would you choose? Speaker 2
Now it's this controversial on people ask me. There's, but big people with me guys. I'm gonna say, hello, And the reason why I hate him and all that stuff, how did he get millions of people to follow in? Speaker 0
Sure. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 0
It's all very frustrating. If you were given ten million dollars tomorrow, what would you do with it? Speaker 2
I get nine million away. And, I'd keep a million just in case the nine million wasn't, you know, Speaker 0
Alright. Doctor. Rob Kelly, what is one challenge that you're facing in your business right now? Speaker 2
Just patient time for patients. That's all it is. We got we got I only check on four patients every three months. I'll have the company checks on, you know, fifty but just time. I wish I had more time to give to people. Speaker 0
And I'm gonna circle back to to your business here in a minute. But what is a or two that you could recommend for our list. Speaker 2
That would be based off ranking. That's my book on Amazon. If you don't like it, I'll refund you nine dollars. Speaker 0
What was the name of it again? Speaker 2
He got me, please stop drinking. Got it. This is what I've got to set in the last and exactly across the four greens. Speaker 0
Awesome. Let's talk about your business. What's who's your ideal client? How do you work with them? Speaker 2
Usually, somebody's lost their way. And, wants to get back. That's about it, really. You know, obviously, to see me consult on my, just because we have a ninety seven percent success. Right? I mean, guarantee they're giving me money back if it doesn't work. So, yeah, rock happy dot com website, two b's r b b k l o y go on half phone. We don't need your work. We don't need your mind. We don't need your services. Go on our phone, guys. Speaker 0
And you you also mentioned to me before, it's at neuro realty partners dot com. You wanna mention that? Speaker 2
Yeah. It's a new conference online guys. We assume we're teaching realtors how to be a success in the first year rather than seventy nine percent, pack in and and leave the industry. So we guarantee that as well. Otherwise, we'll give you money back guarantee everything that we do. Take your realty business from zero to a million dollars in the first year by changing the mindset and changing the behavior. I want to say a decent day. Speaker 0
That's a really unique approach. I mean, there's plenty of information out there for realtors on how to run the real estate business, right, how to how to get clients or, you know, sell a house, but that's the first for me as far as this, the the neuro approach to becoming a successful agent. I love that. What is one thing that we haven't touched on, Rob, that you'd like to? Speaker 2
Just to be, just to looking at these out guys, you know, you really have to look out and love others. I mean, it's such a corny line, but when you love others, then you love yourself. And by loving yourself, you could be the best person that's possible. Why settle the forty five percent when you can get to a hundred percent and enjoy life? Speaker 0
Love that. That's fantastic. Well, yeah, like I said, we could probably have ten episodes, with your story right now. This is I mean, there's there were so many little rabbit holes that I did not go down that I wanted to. So, the story, yeah, that I've said this to other guests. I'm sorry you had to go through so much pain and adversity, but, I am thankful that you're you're giving back so much and you've you know, that you're clearly a positive force in in the world out there. And, thank you so much for joining us, doctor Rob Kelly. This has been great. Speaker 2
Jenny. Speaker 0
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